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post #21 of 36 (permalink) Old 10-23-2013, 04:16 PM
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Ok guys, put your handbags down.

I know in the past Cormier has had medical issues cutting weight and that might be part of the reason he's never actually made the drop, despite talking about it for years. I'm kinda with snapshot on this in the sense that I'll believe it when I see it.
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post #22 of 36 (permalink) Old 10-23-2013, 04:28 PM
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Ok guys, put your handbags down.

I know in the past Cormier has had medical issues cutting weight and that might be part of the reason he's never actually made the drop, despite talking about it for years. I'm kinda with snapshot on this in the sense that I'll believe it when I see it.
I was in that corner of the argument, but with the weight he came in at 166 with, I don't see him having a problem, well assuming he loses another 5-10 lbs and gave himself a nice 10-15lb weight cut that he does smartly. I'm still glad he will have a tune-up fight because we will have to see how he fights at 205. There are quite a few guys there, not including JBJ, who I think would give him a run.
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People are overreacting over this in my opinion. Cormier is doing exactly what he said he was going to do from the start and that is to fight a few HW's in the UFC first and then drop to 205 gradually.

The drop has likely taken a little longer then expected because he wants to drop weight naturally over months instead of cutting the weight dangerously over days which shocks the body, hence the kidney problem he faced many years ago attempting the latter.

The incremental route is clearly the best way to go in Cormier's case and 205 is going to happen because the process has already begun.
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Originally Posted by Killz View Post
Ok guys, put your handbags down.

I know in the past Cormier has had medical issues cutting weight and that might be part of the reason he's never actually made the drop, despite talking about it for years. I'm kinda with snapshot on this in the sense that I'll believe it when I see it.
This is not 2008. This is 2013 and the fruits of his efforts are visible and measured thus far, fitness and nutrition is not a mystery. Hating on a guy who originally expressed interest in fighting at both HW, where promoters were booking him, and 205, because he was not interested in one day fighting his training partner and friend who was the HW champion at the time, is a reach to me, especially when one considers he has stated that making a gradual, modern and safe transition to 205 so he doesn't relive his Olympic weight cutting kidney problems is the priority for him in this task. So when DC says that it is his ultimate intention to safely drop to 205, a task he has thus far appeared to be handling with success in dropped pounds while still being exciting and effective in the cage, lets get all bent up and call bs because how can someone possibly say they have intentions to do something they have not already done? That's pretty thin to me and fitting for people not being realistic but simply looking for way to express biased criticism against the guy.

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post #25 of 36 (permalink) Old 10-23-2013, 11:12 PM Thread Starter
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I don't get the defense.
cause it's more of a flip title than anything else. Although as you can see if you read the thread, there are a few people who don't get it. But, Courmier needs defending like I need a hole in the head. Fighters should do what they want. Courmier was a bit pudgy at 250 in Strikeforce. He's leaner now, faster and just as strong. It'll take him six months to get to 205, because he can't risk big weight cuts. But a well-spoken two time Olympian is marketable. And if Dana was gonna give Gustafson an immediate rematch, I think he'd have already said so.
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Funny enough if you want to talk about someone who held a full time job and was a top 5 fighter then you should be talking about Carwin. He was an engineer working full time while fighting in the UFC.
He certainly had that kind of cardio.
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Luckily he is already 34, which means most likely I will only have to watch him hug people on the cage and throw some awkward shots for another couple years.
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If it makes you feel better to tell your self that, keep doing it. The negative reputation you have earned is the result of the frequently petty arguments and routinely negative statements you choose to make, like this one with DC. No amount of deflection changes that. Your gripe here in this thread is silly imo as is your opinion that Cain Velasquez is a racist, you warrant a certain type of reputation for those type of opinions according to me and I have no problem standing by my usage of the system currently in place to reflect that.
LOL you're the one calling people out getting all bent out of shape for opinions and putting words where you want them.

And just for the record that tat IS racist, although I dont see where I said that Cain was himself a racist. See I have the right to be offended by what I feel is racist regardless of how it hurts your sensitive spots sandy, so neg rep away!

You'll need a lot of help to turn me red because even though I can be curt at times I do know what Im talking about when it comes to MMA and even posters that dont like me for the most part know that my posts may be rough but my points are legitimate.
"The one thing I'm concerned about, being that its going to be my first time down at 205, I know that Gustafsson is going to fight in Europe somewhere. Whether it's Sweden or somewhere else in Europe, I don't want to be making my first weight cut down to 205 overseas. I know what I'm going to need, I want to find saunas here in the United States and all the food that I'm comfortable with in order to make the weight."
Funny now your boyfriend cant fight in Sweden because he needs "the right sauna and food" BAHAHAWAHA! sounds like a big ol f*k'n excuse to me.

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I don't know how you aren't getting it. Cormier almost died from cutting too much weight, so in order to make 205 and not die, he has to lose weight as opposed to cutting lots of weight.

In the Frank Mir fight he weighed 235. In the Nelson fight he weighed 224. Is it so hard to believe that he can lose another 5-8lbs and then cut to 205 for his next fight?

Take off your hate goggles and you might see something there.
Before you jump in and restate a lot of what I already stated, maybe IDK read the posts before hand mmmk?
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I like everything about DC. I like the way he fights and his intelligence shows in the cage and out. I get the black fedor thing but to me he's much more like Randy. Randy with hand speed and power. Outside the cage he's just about the perfect rep for the sport. Listen to his interviews, you'll get a man crush too

Y'all may not appreciate this but when I talk to people my age about this crazy sport it's a lot easier to interest them in someone like DC than some bleachblond purple mohawk or tat covered skin head impersonator offense to all you tat covered skinheads...

but seriously Dc is the man with my demographic and I can't wait to see him dump Jones on his head

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Can't stand the guy, I see no redeeming factors about him. His fighting style is boring, I couldn't care less about his wrestling credentials, and frankly, he's just kind of a wanker.

If you're going to be a turd outside of the cage, you need to at least put on an entertaining show inside.

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I'm not understanding why people doubt Cormier could make LHW. He weighed in at 224 lbs. That's only 19 more lbs. Based on his body fat percentage (which is just guesstimation, I don't actually know it), just on dieting alone he could probably lose that weight in roughly 60 days.
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