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post #201 of 209 (permalink) Old 11-17-2013, 03:57 PM
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I agree if I had to guess its because he's not getting the time directly from coaches the way georges is. I don't know if changing camps is the correct decision but it was pretty obvious when Rory let it go ans went after Robbie he looked to be the better fighter. The second round was what Rory should have been doing the whole night. Changing levels and actually throwing power the straights to the body were hurting Lawler. As well as the kicks.

The rest of the fight I spent going wtf are you doing? Dominate the second round then come out and try to jab and jog against a guy with that kind of power was beyond dumb. He looked nervous standing in the third and I was pretty much waiting for him to get tko'd. He stood with Lawler in the second but he was more fluid and not stiff and trying to wait to time a jab. He should have gone after Lawler as I've said.

Having said that Lawler performed really well and since he dropped to ww full time and moved to ATT he looks like a different fighter. Its one thing to be critical of Rory but Lawler of a few years ago wouldn't have fought through in the third and landed. Rory can fight awful but it still takes the other guy to fight well and win a fight.

I think it was evident thag Rory is feeling the pressure of being the next gsp. You could see it in the corners. Lawler was laughing and smiling and Rory looked tense and just uncomfortable even after the second round. I think Rory is putting too much internal pressure on himself to be the next great ww.

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post #202 of 209 (permalink) Old 11-17-2013, 04:51 PM
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I've never liked Rory, but I've always thought he'd be a huge talent, but in his last few fights he almost looks like he's regressed.

The ellenburger fight was pitiful and last night he looked comfortable to just fight in 2nd gear expecting himself to just win within really pushing himself.

lawler has great heart and power, but he should never be beating the top fighters who are technically a lot better.
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I was very happy at the outcome of this fight. I'm a fan of Lawler and not a fan of MacDonald at all. I feel MacDonald is technically the better fighter but Lawler is just a lot tougher and wanted it more and thats what lead him to victory. MacDonald seemed very gun shy at points of the fight and didn't react well when the fight wasn't going his way. Lawler has improved greatly especially his wrestling I feel he certainly is a contender.
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That was disappointing as a Rory fan. He needs to start pulling the trigger and stop trying to fight smart. He has the ability and power to put guys out. He needs to start doing it or he's going to lose me as a fan.

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post #206 of 209 (permalink) Old 11-18-2013, 01:32 PM
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Was very happy for Robbie. Many didn't give him a chance and even Robbie shouldn't of got this fight and didn't belong in there. His win of Kos got him noticed but not the respect. No one knows who Volker is even though he is a very tough guy to put away. Now with a win over ROry, he gets his respect. Wish he could of put him away there, he tried no doubt.

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Only just caught the event. Enjoyed it thoroughly.

I like Lawler. I like his attitude. He seems to really be enjoying another chance in the UFC ( which he probably thought he might never get again ) - and it shows.

As for Rory? Quite the opposite. He always looks like he hates every minute of it.
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I agree if I had to guess its because he's not getting the time directly from coaches the way georges is. I don't know if changing camps is the correct decision but it was pretty obvious when Rory let it go ans went after Robbie he looked to be the better fighter. The second round was what Rory should have been doing the whole night. Changing levels and actually throwing power the straights to the body were hurting Lawler. As well as the kicks.

The rest of the fight I spent going wtf are you doing? Dominate the second round then come out and try to jab and jog against a guy with that kind of power was beyond dumb. He looked nervous standing in the third and I was pretty much waiting for him to get tko'd. He stood with Lawler in the second but he was more fluid and not stiff and trying to wait to time a jab. He should have gone after Lawler as I've said.

Having said that Lawler performed really well and since he dropped to ww full time and moved to ATT he looks like a different fighter. Its one thing to be critical of Rory but Lawler of a few years ago wouldn't have fought through in the third and landed. Rory can fight awful but it still takes the other guy to fight well and win a fight.

I think it was evident thag Rory is feeling the pressure of being the next gsp. You could see it in the corners. Lawler was laughing and smiling and Rory looked tense and just uncomfortable even after the second round. I think Rory is putting too much internal pressure on himself to be the next great ww.

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First off credit to Joe Silva for making this fight happen. I knew this was going to be exciting one way or another; FOTN or KOTN imo. Robbie is the old dog with a lot to prove. Plus he's a banger by nature. Rory is very methodical.

First round is always a feeling out process, but it was apparent Rory didn't want to rush in. Second round credit goes to Firaz. I remember him distinctively instructing Rory to mix up strikes and focus on his wrestling. Rory followed it to the T. Then in the third Robbie was just a lot looser and relaxed. We all know Rory is by far the more technical fighter, but he was fighting a risk adverse fighting style. Robbie just went for it. So yes I do agree that he puts a ton of pressure on himself so he doesn't want to execute poorly.

Now I think we get to see Erick Silva vs Rory. I've been jonesing for this fight. I still feel they're the future WW contenders.

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Ellenberger is a fringe top 5 WW fighter... MacDonald picked him apart and kept him from being dangerous similar to how GSP has picked other good fighters apart. Maybe not the most entertaining but Ellenberger who is a good fighter could get nothing going.

Mills, Penn, Diaz and Penn aren't that big of wins. I agree but it isn't just winning but how he has won.

Not to mention an inexperienced MacDonald nearly beat Condit. Judging by their first fight if they fought again now MacDonald would likely win.

That right there means MacDonald is pretty much top 3 in the division only behind GSP and Hendricks...

Lawler doesn't deserve to be in the cage with MacDonald. The guy is only a half decent fighter. You question MacDonald's opponents and skills but aren't able to see through the UFC's smokescreens surrounding Lawler? The guy has lost to practically every half decent fighter he has faced, his only win really worth mentioning was over Koscheck and that to me isn't that impressive.

Lawler has a brawlers chance in this fight but he isn't fighting some overrated over the hill wrestler like Koscheck. He is fighting a young, hungry and skilled fighter in MacDonald who is perhaps the best fighter Lawler has ever fought(maybe Souza).

I guess my main point is you may think MacDonald is overrated just because he is still yet to beat some more big names but Lawler is definitely overrated and imo doesn't deserve to be in the ring with a top fighter like MacDonald.

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