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Old 10-30-2013, 03:45 AM   #11 (permalink)
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LOL, right. TRT Vitor is going to wilt against old man, right hand Dan.
No but TRT Vitor May wilt against TRT Old Man Dan
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Be very careful what you ask for. If Vitor doesn't shut down or get frustrated and goes on the onslaught he could get the KO. This is why I don't exactly want to see this fight. He's the one person that can stop Machida. Everyone else including Weidman will lose to Machida. When Machida gets pressed by a flurry of shots he actually panicks and gets stuck against the fence or tries to counter. I've seen this against Shogun I + II, against Rampage, and definitely against the LHW title holder. Heck even against Hendo. He does not do well with people who have very sturdy chins who are ultra aggressive. I'm not talking about Bader run in with ur chin up.

Fight wise would be fantastic though. I'd hate to see any of em lose, but I'd go with Vitor as the slight favorite therefore I'd rather see Machida vs Gegard or Bisping...lolz! I feel bad for Bisping. Everybody wants to challenge em because he's the path of least resistance with the highest reward.

I really hope Anderson takes the title back, vacates it and moves up and lets Lyoto take the 185 while we get the fight we've all wanted to see in Dallas or any other 50k stadium.
Agreed with everything you just said except the gegard part. IMO gegard gives machida a good run for his money and quite possible comes out as the winner if they meet. I want Machida to fight no one else other than weidman next whether he wins or loses against silva in december. Not interested in any other fight atm for machida at MW.
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Old 10-30-2013, 10:33 AM   #13 (permalink)

 
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Like I said, whatever super roids he doesn't get checked for down there may give him a chance.

But you have to be kidding me if you think Belfort can't wilt in that fight. He has been hit with less and dropped. He has wilted in many big fights before.

KOing Bisping or Rockhold is a little different than doing that vs. Hendo.

Vitor is going night night. That is what Hendo does vs. guys who actually come to fight. If Vitor is aggressive like he usually is, he is going to sleep. But I bet he will turn into a point fighter since Dan is actually very dangerous, unlike Bisping or ROckhold.

Dan has put down far better chins than Belfort.



Haha. People are laughable. No chance huh? I'll be sure to remember this post. Love how people count Dan out every time. A couple of pt fighters win split decisions over him and he just sucks. Oh let me guess he only throws a right hand, wow that is some real insight.

NEWSFLASH: Dan has basically been a one-handed brawler for a while now. Actually standing that is all he has ever been. Yet he has knocked out many guys who were considered "better" strikers. Newsflash again. Flashy, technical striking doesn't mean much. It is about timing and accuracy. And Dan has both. It is a broken record. People including yourself probably said the exact same thing in the SHogun and Fedor fights.

Vitor has a history of wilting. Hendo does not. Hendo has a history of breaking fools. Hendo is physically and mentally tougher than Belfort. By a mile.
I realize Dan has been a one handed brawler for a long time problem is he has relied on it more and more and his success with it in SF completely ruined what was left, I think the two leg kick he threw against Rashad was the most diversity he has shown in years. And yes I will freely admit to writing him off against Fedor I failed to realize how broken Fedor was. As for the Shogun fight I am not one of the guys clamoring to call it one of the greatest fights ever I am one of the guys trying to expose it for what it was two past there prime HOF fighters having a sloppy brawl because they are to tired to try and do much else. When two unknown HW's do that everyone calls it embarassing when two of the greatest LHW's of all time do it they don't just get a pass but some people have the nerve to call it possibly the GOAT.
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I realize Dan has been a one handed brawler for a long time problem is he has relied on it more and more and his success with it in SF completely ruined what was left, I think the two leg kick he threw against Rashad was the most diversity he has shown in years. And yes I will freely admit to writing him off against Fedor I failed to realize how broken Fedor was. As for the Shogun fight I am not one of the guys clamoring to call it one of the greatest fights ever I am one of the guys trying to expose it for what it was two past there prime HOF fighters having a sloppy brawl because they are to tired to try and do much else. When two unknown HW's do that everyone calls it embarassing when two of the greatest LHW's of all time do it they don't just get a pass but some people have the nerve to call it possibly the GOAT.
This is exactly where Im at as well.
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I realize Dan has been a one handed brawler for a long time problem is he has relied on it more and more and his success with it in SF completely ruined what was left, I think the two leg kick he threw against Rashad was the most diversity he has shown in years. And yes I will freely admit to writing him off against Fedor I failed to realize how broken Fedor was. As for the Shogun fight I am not one of the guys clamoring to call it one of the greatest fights ever I am one of the guys trying to expose it for what it was two past there prime HOF fighters having a sloppy brawl because they are to tired to try and do much else. When two unknown HW's do that everyone calls it embarassing when two of the greatest LHW's of all time do it they don't just get a pass but some people have the nerve to call it possibly the GOAT.
I just think people overrate Belfort. Sure he has 2 kick KOs in a row. Over who? Bisping who has NEVER proven to beat any top fighters. And Rockhold, who has 1 good win vs. Jacare in a fight many believe he lost. Neither are power punchers.

Vitor is made out to be some unstoppable beast....he is not. KOing Bisping or Rockhold is much different than seeing Hendo in that cage.

Sure maybe Vitor is the rightful favorite down there in Brazil. It just makes me laugh anytime people write off Hendo. Only time in his last 10 fights where he was mopped up was SHields....in a fight where he no longer could cut it at 185 and gassed harder than I have ever seen. He has 2 split losses vs. top 5 LHWs....2 guys who were STILL afraid of his power so they played the outside game. Will Vitor play that outside game? 2 top LHWs seemed to think they HAD too.....

If Hendo connects on an aggressive Belfort....Belfort is going down it is that simple. Hendo has never been KO'd in his life. Belfort will fall down much sooner than Hendo will. And I doubt Belfort is going to look like Machida, throwing goofy stuff from the outside and trying to win on points.

Bisping and Rockhold are fairly DIVERSE strikers. How did that work for them? Diversity in striking is one of the more overrated aspects in MMA. If what you bring works...it works. Timing is underrated in this sport. And Hendo has very good timing with that right hand. Rashad and Machida still realized that. In interviews, Dan has said he is REAL excited to get in there with someone who will throw down.
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I just think people overrate Belfort. Sure he has 2 kick KOs in a row. Over who? Bisping who has NEVER proven to beat any top fighters. And Rockhold, who has 1 good win vs. Jacare in a fight many believe he lost. Neither are power punchers.

Vitor is made out to be some unstoppable beast....he is not. KOing Bisping or Rockhold is much different than seeing Hendo in that cage.

Sure maybe Vitor is the rightful favorite down there in Brazil. It just makes me laugh anytime people write off Hendo. Only time in his last 10 fights where he was mopped up was SHields....in a fight where he no longer could cut it at 185 and gassed harder than I have ever seen. He has 2 split losses vs. top 5 LHWs....2 guys who were STILL afraid of his power so they played the outside game. Will Vitor play that outside game? 2 top LHWs seemed to think they HAD too.....

If Hendo connects on an aggressive Belfort....Belfort is going down it is that simple. Hendo has never been KO'd in his life. Belfort will fall down much sooner than Hendo will. And I doubt Belfort is going to look like Machida, throwing goofy stuff from the outside and trying to win on points.

Bisping and Rockhold are fairly DIVERSE strikers. How did that work for them? Diversity in striking is one of the more overrated aspects in MMA. If what you bring works...it works. Timing is underrated in this sport. And Hendo has very good timing with that right hand. Rashad and Machida still realized that. In interviews, Dan has said he is REAL excited to get in there with someone who will throw down.
I am not using the Bisping or Rockhold fights as an exams and if Hendo was half the fighter he was 5 years ago he would mop the floor with Vitor,BUT Vitor
Throws fast down the middle and will beat Hendo's looping punches right by going right down the middle so fast it's gonna be embarrassing. And don't kid yoursf about Dan never being knocked out Anderson Silva submitting him was a technicality a few hammer fists would have done the job.


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I am not using the Bisping or Rockhold fights as an exams and if Hendo was half the fighter he was 5 years ago he would mop the floor with Vitor,BUT Vitor
Throws fast down the middle and will beat Hendo's looping punches right by going right down the middle so fast it's gonna be embarrassing. And don't kid yoursf about Dan never being knocked out Anderson Silva submitting him was a technicality a few hammer fists would have done the job.
We will have to reunite when the fight is done. Will be funny if Hendo does it again. Won't change the fact that half of people will count him out next time too.
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The best "Who will get KO`d first" fight of the year. That would be nice matchmaking, Mr. Silva! You should get it done! :P
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We will have to reunite when the fight is done. Will be funny if Hendo does it again. Won't change the fact that half of people will count him out next time too.
This is a win win for you. Either you're right and Dan puts Vitor out.. or Dan loses and you'll say all you were doing is telling people to not count him out.
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