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View Poll Results: Who has a better chance? Silva or GSP?

Silva 33 75.00%
GSP 12 27.27%
They are both going to lose so it doesnt matter 5 11.36%
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Old 11-18-2013, 05:33 AM   #21 (permalink)
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There is no shred of doubt that Hendricks dominated GSP in every category of the fight even though GSP tried his VERY BEST to win imo and the opinion of most others.

Sometimes people get caught just like GSP got caught vs Matt Serra even though GSP was the MUCHHH better fighter. Only difference being that GSP got caught while not messing around and Anderson Silva got caught while dancing and mocking.

Id be willing to make a sig bet on Weidman vs Silva if you are.
You're on with the sig bet. Sig stays on for 2 PPVs.

I see Silva getting more focused so it will be a closer and tougher fight, but Weidman is still the better man.
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Old 11-18-2013, 05:36 AM   #22 (permalink)
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You're on with the sig bet. Sig stays on for 2 PPVs.

I see Silva getting more focused so it will be a closer and tougher fight, but Weidman is still the better man.
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Old 11-18-2013, 08:22 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I am against the idea that Silva lost because he "acted like a fool" Silva lost because he leaned back from the weird right hand back fist and had nowhere else to go for the follow up left hook.

That could happen to Silva at any time since he always leans back like that. Its an easy adjustment though, so he should win.
He acted like a fool by pretending to be hurt, what did put Weidman closer than normal for his trademark leaning back. His reflex was still there and lightning fast responsive, but as you said, he had nowhere to go.

We can draw the line between passionate fans and real expectations when it comes to money. While fans are speculating about Anderson's "chances" on the rematch, betting odds do point him as the FAVORITE. I wonder why, since Weidman is the best man in all areas.
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Old 11-18-2013, 08:32 AM   #24 (permalink)
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He acted like a fool by pretending to be hurt, what did put Weidman closer than normal for his trademark leaning back. His reflex was still there and lightning fast responsive, but as you said, he had nowhere to go.

We can draw the line between passionate fans and real expectations when it comes to money. While fans are speculating about Anderson's "chances" on the rematch, betting odds do point him as the FAVORITE. I wonder why, since Weidman is the best man in all areas.
Because betting odds are made by humans and humans are creatures of habit and hype, and many are emotionally invested in their favorite fighters. They were used to seeing Anderson demolish people for almost a decade now, so if he loses there is automatically something wrong with the outcome, not that he was actually beaten.

Chuck was the heavy favorite against Rampage the second time too, despite getting has ass whupped by Rampage in Pride a few years before and not having evolved much since (some would argue he actually devolved and stopped using his kicks). A MUCH heavier favorite than Anderson against Weidman the second time, who is close to even on odds. We all know what happened there sadly. Some guys are just bad styles for others, betting odds don't always reflect reality.
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Old 11-18-2013, 08:41 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I give the edge to Silva in this category, mainly because of his unpredictable striking and KO ability. I still think Weidman will beat him again by being the more well-rounded fighter but it could go either way.

GSP on the other hand appeared to be outclassed. Johny has better wrestling, is much stronger, and hits harder. Add to that the fact that Johny is going to be motivated after that joke of a decision so I think he will come back even stronger and in better shape. If there's a rematch I think Johny will stop him, or at least hurt him even worse than in the first one.
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Because betting odds are made by humans and humans are creatures of habit and hype, and many are emotionally invested in their favorite fighters. They were used to seeing Anderson demolish people for almost a decade now, so if he loses there is automatically something wrong with the outcome, not that he was actually beaten.

Chuck was the heavy favorite against Rampage the second time too, despite getting has ass whupped by Rampage in Pride a few years before and not having evolved much since (some would argue he actually devolved and stopped using his kicks). A MUCH heavier favorite than Anderson against Weidman the second time, who is close to even on odds. We all know what happened there sadly. Some guys are just bad styles for others, betting odds don't always reflect reality.
LMFAO @ the first line. What a huge misunderstanding of betting.

Paddy Power: I'm going to make Cody McKenzie the favourite over Chad Mendes.

Experts: What? You're lose millions. Why would you do that?

Paddy Power: Dat McKenzitine.
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Old 11-18-2013, 09:50 AM   #27 (permalink)
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LMFAO @ the first line. What a huge misunderstanding of betting.

Paddy Power: I'm going to make Cody McKenzie the favourite over Chad Mendes.

Experts: What? You're lose millions. Why would you do that?

Paddy Power: Dat McKenzitine.
Of course because there are never any upsets in MMA, it's all so perfectly computerized by the demigod oddsmakers who know everything. Nonsensical extreme comparisons notwithstanding of course.

It's not like they gave the exact same heavy favorite odds to BJ for the Edgar rematch too.
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Old 11-18-2013, 10:08 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Because betting odds are made by humans and humans are creatures of habit and hype, and many are emotionally invested in their favorite fighters. They were used to seeing Anderson demolish people for almost a decade now, so if he loses there is automatically something wrong with the outcome, not that he was actually beaten.

Chuck was the heavy favorite against Rampage the second time too, despite getting has ass whupped by Rampage in Pride a few years before and not having evolved much since (some would argue he actually devolved and stopped using his kicks). A MUCH heavier favorite than Anderson against Weidman the second time, who is close to even on odds. We all know what happened there sadly. Some guys are just bad styles for others, betting odds don't always reflect reality.
I see your points, but regarding the bold quotes, Weidman will be a bad style if he can put Anderson on his back and work his wrestling. Since he didn't keep Anderson down and won after Anderson acted beyond stupid, I can only say his style is a threat to Anderson's on paper.
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I see your points, but regarding the bold quotes, Weidman will be a bad style if he can put Anderson on his back and work his wrestling. Since he didn't keep Anderson down and won after Anderson acted beyond stupid, I can only say his style is a threat to Anderson's on paper.
Weidman's style goes far beyond being just a threat on paper to Silva. Weidman already imposed his will on Silva and he beat him decisively where ever the fight went.

Also this isn't directed at you but I'm seeing a lot of silly posts sprouting up again in this thread about Weidman only winning because Silva got stupid or cocky. The reality is Silva got his ass handed to him during that fight because Weidman is an elite fighter who dominated the former champ.
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Silva lost because he stood with his feet side by side, you're right- he had nowhere to go
If Weidman had thrown the left first i expect Silva would have had time to reset his feet before the right swings around.
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