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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 02-02-2014, 11:55 PM Thread Starter
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Alistair Overeem salvages career, leaves Frank Mir’s future in doubt at UFC 169

Well, someone had to lose. I really wasn't sure who would come out on top even though The Reem was the heavy favorite especially with his past two performances in mind.

Curious to hear what Mir has to say and what his future holds. He's fought all, but two of his fights in the Octagon.

*Note* The Reem might be the only one to retire two UFC champions.

EDIT: Tuesday Feb. 4, 2014

The Reem responds to Dana's comments...

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"In my mind I was actually just focused on not walking into the trap that happened with Travis, where you just punch yourself out and then suddenly you end up in a leglock or an armbar, because that's what Mir is known about,' Overeem said. "He's got this dangerous submission game, he can take a beating, and he's also known for faking a little but, wobbling once you start getting into it, you're in a submission. That was my main focus."

"Dana is a very upfront character, I like that about him, because I like to know where I'm at," Overeem said. "And he's entitled to his opinion, as we all are. I think it was a very technical performance, it is what it is. I can't make more of it now. I can understand him, he's the promoter, he wants to have exciting fights. Ratings matter, fans matter, fans want exciting fight. I hope he also understands my opinion, the ‘loser leaves town match.' Since the Travis fight, [I heard] a lot of things about my cardio. In life sometimes you always don't get what you want."

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/2/3/...e-mir-mma-news
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Alistair Overeem deposited Frank Mir on his back so often Saturday night at UFC 169 that it felt like only a matter of time before he cashed in on the position with a stoppage.

Overeem resisted investing too heavily in Mir’s vulnerable situations, however, because he feared fraud.

“That’s a lot of his strength,” Overeem explained at the post-fight press conference. “He goes down and you dive on him, you unload and suddenly you’re in a leglock. That’s why I kept so careful.”

The lack of a finish in Overeem’s unanimous-decision victory (30-27, 30-27, 30-27) over Mir diminished the performance in the eyes of some, including UFC President Dana White who said the bout was not what he expected. Overeem couldn’t disagree more.

He left the Prudential Center proud he’d shown progression in snapping a two-fight losing streak. Not following Mir too aggressively to the ground, where the local former heavyweight champion could show off his extensive Brazilian jiu-jitsu skill set after deceptively acting hurt, was a calculated approach.

Overeem felt carelessness was the biggest factor in upset losses to Antonio “Bigfoot” Silva and Travis Browne last year. The 33-year-old former Strikeforce champion was ahead of both fights, and close to finishing them at times, before judgment lapses left him susceptible to comebacks.

He wouldn’t repeat the same mistakes against Mir.

“I proved to everybody I’m back tonight,” Overeem said. “Frank is a very experienced fighter, his game plan was to take me down, but I’m a well-rounded fighter so I dominated him. This victory has motivated me a lot to go back to the gym and get ready for fighting again.”

Mir, who has lost four in a row in lopsided fashion, hopes he gets the same opportunity. While the 34-year-old was unavailable for comment following the loss, he strongly indicated earlier in the week that he wanted to continue with his fighting career regardless of the result.

It remains to be determined if the UFC is as enthusiastic about his future. White hinted the loser would no longer have a spot in the UFC months ago, but wouldn’t commit to anything after seeing the fight.

“It’s not a decision we make tonight,” White said. “We’ll go back and we’ll get together next week and figure out what we want to do.”

White already had something in mind for Overeem. He liked the idea of Overeem facing former champion Junior dos Santos. They’re known as two of the best strikers in the division and developed a rivalry when they were scheduled to fight at UFC 146 before the Nevada State Athletic Commission suspended Overeem for testing positive for elevated testosterone levels.

A win against dos Santos would likely spring Overeem into title contention, but he was noncommittal on Saturday.

“Every fight in the UFC is interesting to me,” Overeem said. “On that note, for now, it’s Holiday time. Then we’re going to sit together with the team and figure it out.”

It might sound like a strange time to celebrate the holidays, but Overeem skipped a lot of the festive periods the last couple months. Nagged by losing, Overeem never took any time off over the last year.

The sting of losing, and the desire to get back to winning, kept him in the gym on a nearly everyday basis.

“It’s been awhile,” Overeem said. “For me, it’s been a long year.”

He focused more on adjusting to his opponent than ever before. Against Mir, that meant shedding weight and working on his cardio.

Overeem didn’t gas out at all, unlike some other fights in his career, after 15 minutes of pummeling of Mir. He also never exposed himself to unfavorable circumstances.

Caution was the important instrument to stay in the black against Mir.

“Frank is always one of those fighters that stays dangerous until the end,” Overeem said. “I felt that until the end, he was reaching for a submission or something.”

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Overeem Could Have Finsied Mir Without Blowing His Load... Even In The Last Minute Of The Fight. Him And Frank Have To Be Buddies Of Some Sort... That Was A Mercy Spare.


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That could be... however with his recent string of fights in mind, knowing he had the W in the bag, I just can't see a reason to risk going for the finish. He had nothing to gain and everything to lose.

He needed the W more than the finish. Dana can pout all he wants, but IMO Overeem made the right choice.
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No shit ... thats all they talked for 2 weeks ... everybody knew this already...

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The Reem responds to Dana's comments...

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"In my mind I was actually just focused on not walking into the trap that happened with Travis, where you just punch yourself out and then suddenly you end up in a leglock or an armbar, because that's what Mir is known about,' Overeem said. "He's got this dangerous submission game, he can take a beating, and he's also known for faking a little but, wobbling once you start getting into it, you're in a submission. That was my main focus."

"Dana is a very upfront character, I like that about him, because I like to know where I'm at," Overeem said. "And he's entitled to his opinion, as we all are. I think it was a very technical performance, it is what it is. I can't make more of it now. I can understand him, he's the promoter, he wants to have exciting fights. Ratings matter, fans matter, fans want exciting fight. I hope he also understands my opinion, the ‘loser leaves town match.' Since the Travis fight, [I heard] a lot of things about my cardio. In life sometimes you always don't get what you want."

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/2/3/...e-mir-mma-news

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The Reem responds to Dana's comments...
The more responses I read like this from Overeem... the more I like the guy.

I really hope he's truly pulled his head out of the clouds and is ready to make an impact in the HW division.
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A very mature response in my opinion.




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As soon as I read Reems response, cue rolling stones "you can't always get what you want, no you can't always get what you want."

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Since the Travis fight, [I heard] a lot of things about my cardio. In life sometimes you always don't get what you want.
This is a breath of fresh air. You see guy's with bad cardio who never listen to the outsiders nor actually do anything about it. Really mature response, i hope Dana feels just a bit worse about his ignorant comments now.

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This is a breath of fresh air. You see guy's with bad cardio who never listen to the outsiders nor actually do anything about it. Really mature response, i hope Dana feels just a bit worse about his ignorant comments now.
I don't think dana has a conscience... and I'm being serious about that. He seems to show zero remorse for his words or actions.

I think this is a trait necessary to survive at his level.
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