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View Poll Results: Which is a bigger screw up?
Early Stoppage 9 24.32%
Late Stoppage 19 51.35%
Both are same level only case by case matters. 6 16.22%
Early stoppage is worse since at-least a late stoppage satisfies my blood lust. 3 8.11%
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post #11 of 50 (permalink) Old 03-22-2014, 06:40 AM
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Can't see any logical reason why anyone would say early is worse than late stoppages.
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Can't see any logical reason why anyone would say early is worse than late stoppages.
Because with a late stoppage my bloodlust gets satisfied, duuuuh... oh wait, you said logical.




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Can't see any logical reason why anyone would say early is worse than late stoppages.
Because they dont care about the fighters health since thats a risk the fighter agrees to take but they do care about the 60$ they paid to watch the fights and thus want to be entertained and not have a good fight ruined due to a crap early stoppage.

A company person might look at it from the UFCs perspective and think a very important title or super fight being ruined due to an early stoppage is worse then a late stoppage for example GSP vs Silva ending in a really lame early stoppage after many months of advertising and getting everything ready and the fighters themselves preparing for the most important fight of their career. A early stoppage in such a scenario could be worse then a late one.

What one person values is not always the same thing as what a different person values. There is many different logical reasons even if you particularly dont think its as important.

But then again i like to think of many different views even if i dont agree with them.

Personally i think a late stoppage is worse as well due to fighter safety BUT if i was a fighter and that was my life i would think a early stoppage is the worst thing possible. Fighting is a short career and you dont get many chances for that to be ruined by a ref pulling the trigger too quickly?? Yikes.... it would keep me up at night for years and years.

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Ive never heard a fighter complaining about a late stoppage.
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Ive never heard a fighter complaining about a late stoppage.
Now that i think about it im not sure i have either.

I think i kinda vaguely remember a fighter MAYBE complaining about being at the receiving end of a late stoppage... but i think i am full of shit and my mind just made that up.

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Now that i think about it im not sure i have either.

I think i kinda vaguely remember a fighter MAYBE complaining about being at the receiving end of a late stoppage... but i think i am full of shit and my mind just made that up.
Yea. that was my trail of thought too. End of the day, its up to them not us. And considering how many fighters complain about early stoppages and the fact that I cant recall a single fighter ever complain about a late stop, kinda answers the question for me.

Having said all that, my heart tells me these guys are all fecking lunatics and cant be trusted to do what's right for their long term health. Its tricky, but ultimately, they choose to partake in combat sports. They would argue that they know the risks before the step into the cage. So all things considered, I still lean towards late stoppages being the lesser of two evils.
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Eugh, that one is absolutely brutal to watch. Late stoppage is way worse. Sure, an early stoppage can ruin a fight somewhat, but a late one could end someones career, and ruin their health. That's way, way worse.

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Late for sure.

A guy's well-being is nothing to **** around with. With early stoppages you can always get a rematch or redeem yourself in another match.


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Early stoppage is always worse. It ruins my fun when fights are called prematurely.
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They are 2 different animals.

Late = health
Early = possible screwup of the fight outcome

late is "worse" because health trumps all, but it's 2 different metrics to judge by
Early is more than just a possible screwup of the fight result, it can also screwup the fighter's career. Let's say for example that they stopped the Overeem vs. Browne fight while Reem was unloading on him. Overeem gets the win, Browne gets knocked out of the top 10, and he loses all the bonuses, hype, and endorsements that he got for beating Overeem and Barnett.

Personally I think early stoppages are worse, unless we're talking about a really terrible late stoppage such as Carwin vs. Mir. It's very rare to see a stoppage that bad whereas there's many early stoppages which mess up fight results.
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