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post #101 of 113 (permalink) Old 05-11-2014, 04:51 PM
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Here's something interesting for perspective on Matt Brown. At the beginning of 2012 he was 12-11 and not even ranked in the top 20. He had been subbed in four of his last five fights and was fighting a guy from tuf that basically appeared to have supposed to been his walking papers...since beating chris cope in February 2012 he has won seven straight all but one by stoppage.

It's amazing what he's put together. This isn't Vitor, a guy who spent time in the top five and then got old and then had a resurgence. This is a guy no one thought was anything more than just an unskilled journeyman in the deepest division in the ufc, who never cracked the top 20 nevermind the top ten.
I wouldn't go that far but i get your point, it truly is one of the biggest career turnarounds in ufc history.

He was always tough, powerful with a slick submission game... but his stand up seems like a whole different fighter, the way he manipulates and controls people in the clinch is masterful and his bjj defense seems to have improved also, he dealt with that choke attempt nicely.

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post #102 of 113 (permalink) Old 05-11-2014, 06:01 PM
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Silva was exhausted as soon as they got up in round one, it's kind of embarrassing how bad his conditioning is.
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Silva was exhausted as soon as they got up in round one, it's kind of embarrassing how bad his conditioning is.
It's incredible. I wonder if he shows this lack of conditioning in his daily training or heavy sparring sessions.
He is a fit young, mostly slender guy, not an over bulked muscular short fighter. He said in an interview he was focusing in the 5 rounds fights specific conditioning and he gasses in the first already, so I am leaning to the theory he is not emotionally stable and thus not controlling his breathing and pace properly. I saw the confidence expire from his eyes as soon Brown got away from his sub attempts and it was like he knew he wouldn't make it to the end, which he didn't.


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Silva was exhausted as soon as they got up in round one, it's kind of embarrassing how bad his conditioning is.
I was actually impressed how long he lasted.
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Erick wasn't phased by the strikes, he had ZERO gas when they were back to their feet in the 1st already and like been said, looked like a drunk. He lost by complete exhaustion, so bad even to speak about his technique out of the 1st round became impossible task.

His cornermen were telling him in Portuguese "can't you see he is hurt in his mid section? Hit him there. "
But his eyes looked like "what? Time to go to school already, mom?
As I wrote in the other thread, Silva started dominant in the UFC, but just hasn't improved since then. His gas tank and lack of intelligent pacing hast always been his problem, but in this fight it really was beyond embarassing. Silva looked good in the first exchanges until he dropped Brown. The way he looked after they got up again makes you think that he hold his breath during the ground battle or something like that. I already thought it was not the best idea to chase the submission (and thereby letting Brown recover) instead of picking the wounded opponent apart with more shots to the body, but I didn't imagine Silva would look as bad as he did. His lack of cardio and fight IQ is really disappointing.
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Can't help but be amazed at how quick Silvas stock has fallen, and rightly so.

The guy was being pegged to be the next big thing at WW and to be honest, since Fitch gave him a beating he has looked terrible. His cardio is practically none existent and his fight IQ isn't much better.

That being said, Matt Brown looked great and got through some serious body shots in the first to come back and school Silva. So glad he's managing to string a good streak together.
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Brown is fun to watch! BUt I can't give him too much cred, given his competition; I've not much opinion on his skill level until he fights someone on the top tier. I mean, Silva kicked his butt until Silva gassed early & heavily...
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Brown is fun to watch! BUt I can't give him too much cred, given his competition; I've not much opinion on his skill level until he fights someone on the top tier. I mean, Silva kicked his butt until Silva gassed early & heavily...
I definitely don't think Brown gets a title shot. He needs to beat one of the top tier guys first, and Lombard seems a very tough matchup for him. That's not to say, though, I count him out. But it's definitely a tougher matchup. But the moment Brown beats a top 5, that will seal the deal for a title shot.
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I'm sold on Matt Brown being a legitimate threat at 170. I was worried about his sub defense since that's how he's lost 9 of his fights in the past.

But he looked ruthless in everything he did in this fight. Brown is a lunatic.


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Brown is definitely improved. I don't think there is any MMA fan that can rationally disprove this. I do think he should get 1 fight against a top tier fighter and if he wins, give him the shot, but I would like to see that one fight against a title contender.


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