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Old 05-01-2014, 06:39 AM   #11 (permalink)
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What's actually lame IMO is people's willingness to use the word "trolling" as a defence of every horrible thing a person says, does or commits. Let's let all the nice rapists, murderers, etc. out of prison too, they were just trollin lawl. Extreme example but you get the idea.

Taking steroids and cheating in a sport is not trolling. Fraud is not trolling. Insulting people's wives, countries, people, culture etc. is not trolling (sometimes people in comedy do it to their own cultures etc. and that's cool because it's self-deprecatory, but not when doing to others) . It's called being a dick, none of it is remotely funny, and in real life it gets you beat into a pulp. People on the internet have just invented a term for it to sound less cowardly for hiding behind their screen and doing it.
It is trolling, for one simple reason: He obviously doesn't mean it. That's exactly what trolling is. And if the people you are trolling do believe you and get riled up, then the mission has been a total success.

Do you honestly believe Chael means any of this shit? The dude just filmed a TV show in Brazil where he helped train a bunch of Brazilian chaps. Personally, I will take actions over words any day, to determine a persons true persona.

Wandy is just a village idiot with no sense of humour. Getting wound up over some words and making dumb videos which do nothing but feed the troll. Even more dumb when you consider they are actually going to meet in the cage and settle this soon enough.
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It is trolling, for one simple reason: He obviously doesn't mean it. That's exactly what trolling is. And if the people you are trolling do believe you and get riled up, then the mission has been a total success.

Do you honestly believe Chael means any of this shit? The dude just filmed a TV show in Brazil where he helped train a bunch of Brazilian chaps. Personally, I will take actions over words any day, to determine a persons true persona.

Wandy is just a village idiot with no sense of humour. Getting wound up over some words and making dumb videos which do nothing but feed the troll. Even more dumb when you consider they are actually going to meet in the cage and settle this soon enough.
What part of taking steroids and walking in at 6 times the limit of testosterone for a fight, committing real estate fraud etc. is words and not action?

He doesn't mean it is irrelevant. If I walked in to work and called my boss a piece of shit, I'd get fired whether or not I meant it. Saying insulting stuff to someone, their family, or culture is being a dick, whether or not you mean it. It's not joking or trolling or whatever cover up excuse people make for it.

Not unless you are close friends, in which case it's just buddies pulling each other's leg. Or it is your own culture, family etc. you make fun of, in which case it is self-deprecatory. Other than that it is just being an asshole. I don't understand why people don't get this or try to defend it, it's not a terribly hard concept.

Also Chael is training a bunch of Brazilian dudes because he gets paid mad money to be on TUF, not because of his heart of gold and charity for Brazil. He'd train dogs if they paid him to do it. I'd be more impressed if he did something like this on his own.
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Old 05-01-2014, 10:33 AM   #13 (permalink)
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What part of taking steroids and walking in at 6 times the limit of testosterone for a fight, committing real estate fraud etc. is words and not action?

He doesn't mean it is irrelevant. If I walked in to work and called my boss a piece of shit, I'd get fired whether or not I meant it. Saying insulting shit to someone, their family, or culture is being a dick, whether or not you mean it. It's not joking or trolling or whatever cover up excuse people make for it.

Not unless you are close friends, in which case it's just buddies pulling each other's leg. Or it is your own culture, family etc. you make fun of, in which case it is self-deprecatory. Other than that it is just being an asshole. I don't understand why people don't get this or try to defend it, it's not a terribly hard concept.

Also Chael is training a bunch of Brazilian dudes because he gets paid mad money to be on TUF, not because of his heart of gold and charity for Brazil. He'd train dogs if they paid him to do it. I'd be more impressed if he did something like this on his own.
I was addressing his "trolling". eg All that shit he says about other fighters etc. You were suggesting its not trolling and that hes actually a horrible bastard. I suggested otherwise. The steroid thing is a good point. I was disappointed when he pulled that shit, so Ill give you that.

As for you or I getting sacked, that might be the case. But these are fighters in the fight game. Its an environment a million miles away from that which we might work in.

Having said all that, I can understand how people would hate the fecking idiot for the shit he says and does, so no further complaints from me bro.
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Wandy, just shut up and fight...
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Wandy, just shut up and fight...
That's going to be even more embarrassing for him than his pathetic attempts to be more like Chael.

steroid wandy in pride was scary and entertaining. That was a long time ago. He should have retired on Stann. Nobody else is going to gift him a brawl and that's all he's got.
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Wandy, just shut up and fight...
I wish he could do either, also the two people having a hard on for chael in this thread have very warped versions of who is in the right and who is in the wrong here. Hey liddel and Gdp(or whatever the ****ness your jumbled letters username is) wandy defiantly did take roids on pride just like most of everyones supposed angel pride heroes.
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Am i the only one who doesn't care about a single thing these guy's do?
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Am i the only one who doesn't care about a single thing these guy's do?
After I immediately realised after typing my last response how boring and annoying this topic is on this forum, i'm totally over it all too now. I don't give a shit anymore I just hope wand retires after he loses to chael.
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Old 05-01-2014, 01:52 PM   #19 (permalink)
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What's actually lame IMO is people's willingness to use the word "trolling" as a defence of every horrible thing a person says, does or commits. Let's let all the nice rapists, murderers, etc. out of prison too, they were just trollin lawl. Extreme example but you get the idea.

Taking steroids and cheating in a sport is not trolling. Fraud is not trolling. Insulting people's wives, countries, people, culture etc. is not trolling (sometimes people in comedy do it to their own cultures etc. and that's cool because it's self-deprecatory, but not when doing to others) . It's called being a dick, none of it is remotely funny, and in real life it gets you beat into a pulp. People on the internet have just invented a term for it to sound less cowardly for hiding behind their screen and doing it.
Actually people make fun of countries/women/men/children/people/culture on a day to day basis and don't get "beat to a pulp", and actually that kind of humor is funny to quite a large portion of people on this planet. In fact there is a group of people that make a good living doing that very thing because of how much money people around the world are willing to pay to get that kind of joke/humor in their life. Unless a person is extremely dense it's quite obvious is he joking to get into people's heads and create a character for media hype, or "trolling", whatever you would like it to be called.

I honestly don't think Wanderlei has such a low IQ as to believe anything Sonnen says is legitimately serious, even Anderson knew he wasn't serious hell Sonnen and Anderson get along quite well from what has been shown. Anderson has even said straight out that Sonnen is a good guy and just says things to hype fights, this is after he made fun of Brazil/his wife/etc. Why? Because it's obvious to anyone with two working eyes and ears what Sonnen is doing, except apparently Wanderlei... but again, I don't believe he is that dumb, so I believe he's just playing the hype game as well and creating more feud than what's actually there.
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Actually people make fun of countries/women/men/children/people/culture on a day to day basis and don't get "beat to a pulp", and actually that kind of humor is funny to quite a large portion of people on this planet. In fact there is a group of people that make a good living doing that very thing. Unless a person is extremely dense it's quite obvious is he joking to get into people's heads and create a character for media hype, or "trolling", whatever you would like it to be called.

I honestly don't think Wanderlei has such a low IQ as to believe anything Sonnen says is legitimately serious, even Anderson knew he wasn't serious hell Sonnen and Anderson get along quite well from what has been shown. Anderson has even said straight out that Sonnen is a good guy and just says things to hype fights, this is after he made fun of Brazil/his wife/etc. Why? Because it's obvious to anyone with two working eyes and ears what Sonnen is doing, except apparently Wanderlei... but again, I don't believe he is that dumb, so I believe he's just playing the hype game as well and creating more feud than what's actually there.
This times a million.

Anyone who thinks Sonnen is serious must really flip their shit in a comedy club.
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