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Old 06-07-2014, 12:05 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I agree with all points except for the cheating. It is a great way to destroy your body. Dehydration puts your brain at a much greater risk.
I already told you that I agree it isn't cheating. So yes I fully agree it isn't Just saying Rogan and a lot of us posters already we are against weight cutting when it puts people at risk and is also a huge advantage to the ones who are masters at weight cutting.

Also John8204, good idea, but i'm not too sure on the huge gaps between each limit. Hear me out though. It is probably because I am so accustomed to having a fixed weight limit. So this system might work.

At the end of the day they should start experimenting with it and see which system works best.
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:19 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I sort of agree with Rogan, but then again this is the same guy who said quite often that Edgar should be fighting at 145. He even said it when he was fighting for the belt. I mean competitively he was right, Edgar's body size compared to UFC fighters was better suited for 145, but his natural weight was right around 155 with virtually no weight cutting for most fights.
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:20 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Also John8204, good idea, but i'm not too sure on the huge gaps between each limit. Hear me out though. It is probably because I am so accustomed to having a fixed weight limit. So this system might work.
The big differences are at the top and bottom to discourage fighters from weight cutting and to have the small differences in the middle where the fighters average weight would be as opposed to at the lowest weight areas where guys are killing themselves to get to 125 and 135.

The average fighter likely weighs between 170-210 give them about 10lbs to cut just to be in shape.
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:37 AM   #14 (permalink)
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No one above 5ft 3 or 4 who is in the right shape for fighting should weigh anywhere near 125lbs... Guys who are 5'8+ making that weight are playing with fire.

I reckon all fighters should have 2 surprise weigh ins both between 2-6 weeks out from the fight where they have to be within 20lbs of their fighting Weight.
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it's certainly not cheating. but it is crazy. like another poster set, it defeats the purpose having weight classes. Rampage has been know to walk around at like 250. That's 45 lbs hes losing/cutting.

Here's what I think the rule should be: No IV's. If you can cut weight, just drink some water and pedialyte, okay youre fine. But ive been to the weigh ins for UFN 18 in Nashville. I was weighting around for autographs and for some guys I was literally waiting for them to come back out after going into the arena for IV fluids. That's too much. If you need an IV directly after weigh ins, you're cutting too much.
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Cheating? No. Stupid? Yes. Why? Because we only see a fraction of their true potential and we'd see much better fights if they'd stop cutting so much. Case in point; Rumble Johnson
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Well technically it isn't cheating but it's definitely dangerous and I wish there was a system in place to prevent it... Like you aren't allowed to cut more than 10 lbs or something... Fights would still be awesome it wouldn't change much but fly feather and bantamweight would be kinda empty... Not a huge fan of those divisions anyway though.
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Said it before, and will say it again - they should be weighed en route to the cage at the Harley Davidson checkpoint.

Simple. There would be teething problems, I know people will say "what if it's a title fight and the guy misses weight outside the cage?".

The weightclasses should be in 10lb sections i.e. welterweight is 170lb - 180lb.

I know that this is how it's always been done, but hell, we didn't have linesmen in football at one point - the best thing about MMA is that it is young enough in the mainstream to be adapted for the best interests of the fans, the fighters and the sport.

It's unsafe, and often unfair. Ben Henderson immediately springs to mind, when he gets in the cage the guy is like a MW.
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Somewhat agree.. you could stop it by making the weigh ins on fight night? Idk.. don't think Dana agrres though
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Said it before, and will say it again - they should be weighed en route to the cage at the Harley Davidson checkpoint.

Simple. There would be teething problems, I know people will say "what if it's a title fight and the guy misses weight outside the cage?".

The weightclasses should be in 10lb sections i.e. welterweight is 170lb - 180lb.

I know that this is how it's always been done, but hell, we didn't have linesmen in football at one point - the best thing about MMA is that it is young enough in the mainstream to be adapted for the best interests of the fans, the fighters and the sport.

It's unsafe, and often unfair. Ben Henderson immediately springs to mind, when he gets in the cage the guy is like a MW.
I agree, that's the best.

If the guy misses weight just fire him

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