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Old 07-09-2006, 11:24 AM   #101 (permalink)
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Man if you could see how angry my friend & I were at the ref stopping Ortiz/Shamrock, we were so pissed off I was ready to ****in' turn off the PPV after that bullshit. I was pulling for Shamrock to win so bad. I hope they have a 3rd fight and no bullshit stoppage. Shamrock would never give up like that.



Arlovski/Sylvia was an amazing fight, I was so happy it went all 5 rounds it was a very defensive fight but Sylvia landed the best shots.


Mir/Christison almost put my friend & I to sleep! We just kept making fun of how horribly slow that fight was.


Burkman/Neer was very good. It was beyond me why the crowd was booing, probably because of the bullshit of Ortiz/Shamrock. Burkman hit two amazing slams and it was obvious he was winning.


Yves bled pretty damn bad, it was just really nasty to see all over the octagon and they didn't clean it.
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Old 07-09-2006, 11:40 AM   #102 (permalink)
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Man if you could see how angry my friend & I were at the ref stopping Ortiz/Shamrock, we were so pissed off I was ready to ****in' turn off the PPV after that bullshit. I was pulling for Shamrock to win so bad. I hope they have a 3rd fight and no bullshit stoppage. Shamrock would never give up like that.



Arlovski/Sylvia was an amazing fight, I was so happy it went all 5 rounds it was a very defensive fight but Sylvia landed the best shots.


Mir/Christison almost put my friend & I to sleep! We just kept making fun of how horribly slow that fight was.


Burkman/Neer was very good. It was beyond me why the crowd was booing, probably because of the bullshit of Ortiz/Shamrock. Burkman hit two amazing slams and it was obvious he was winning.


Yves bled pretty damn bad, it was just really nasty to see all over the octagon and they didn't clean it.
its hard to clean blood up properly on that kinda of surface in the middle of a series of matches without pulling the mats up and such.. they really had no choice.. if it were a boxing/wrestling style ring, they could change it out in minutes...
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Old 07-09-2006, 11:47 AM   #103 (permalink)
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when is the ufc gonna get some real heavyweights in the game. pride has all the heavyweights.
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Old 07-09-2006, 12:33 PM   #104 (permalink)
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just like boxing

i'm sorry, but i feel the "new" UFC is bullshit. its become the same as boxing and its all about the money....Shamrock is my all time favorite tied with the Iceman, but i'm sorry to say i think the old timers are starting to take dives. think about it. not one can beat these guys at least once? Frank Shamrock can take tito, but ken who can take Frank cant? B.S. and when Ken fought rich Franklin, what was with the high kicks? when is the last time you saw a grappler kicking above the waist...lol..B.S. Gracie, who lives by never turning your back to someone....loses that way....lol....gets up and is fine...where is the fight? If Ken was to win this fight who would he fight next? No one, no money there, Tito wins....oh now we have a set up for the chuck liddell fight. good marketing if you ask me. i just miss when it was real fighting, but its all about sanctioning the fight in the U.S. and making money. Shit, i've been hit 10 times in a row and looked non responsive and then knocked the piss out of the guy....its happened a thousand times in the UFC before. I'm just really over it...my last fight will probably be Iceman/Ortiz 2 just to see a real non shit talker be victorious again and then i'm done.....sorry this is all over the road, i just woke up....
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i'm sorry, but i feel the "new" UFC is bullshit. its become the same as boxing and its all about the money....Shamrock is my all time favorite tied with the Iceman, but i'm sorry to say i think the old timers are starting to take dives. think about it. not one can beat these guys at least once? Frank Shamrock can take tito, but ken who can take Frank cant? B.S. and when Ken fought rich Franklin, what was with the high kicks? when is the last time you saw a grappler kicking above the waist...lol..B.S. Gracie, who lives by never turning your back to someone....loses that way....lol....gets up and is fine...where is the fight? If Ken was to win this fight who would he fight next? No one, no money there, Tito wins....oh now we have a set up for the chuck liddell fight. good marketing if you ask me. i just miss when it was real fighting, but its all about sanctioning the fight in the U.S. and making money. Shit, i've been hit 10 times in a row and looked non responsive and then knocked the piss out of the guy....its happened a thousand times in the UFC before. I'm just really over it...my last fight will probably be Iceman/Ortiz 2 just to see a real non shit talker be victorious again and then i'm done.....sorry this is all over the road, i just woke up....
Hmm, interesting observations... makes you wonder. However, I think Ken only has himself to blame for losing this one. After watching the replay a few times on Youtube, it was clear Ken was doing absolutely nothing to block or defend himself against those elbows, and regardless of what you think about UFC rules, Ken knows he needed to do that. Yes, I've seen some other UFC fights go longer under similar circumstances, but I don't think Ken took a dive here. I think he was rocked, and forgot where he was for a moment. His head was bouncing like a basketball. Sure, he got right up complaining about it afterwards, but that's a fighter's instinct. I've seen boxers who were so punch-drunk they couldn't even walk, arguing with the ref for stopping it.
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Hmm, interesting observations... makes you wonder. However, I think Ken only has himself to blame for losing this one. After watching the replay a few times on Youtube, it was clear Ken was doing absolutely nothing to block or defend himself against those elbows, and regardless of what you think about UFC rules, Ken knows he needed to do that. Yes, I've seen some other UFC fights go longer under similar circumstances, but I don't think Ken took a dive here. I think he was rocked, and forgot where he was for a moment. His head was bouncing like a basketball. Sure, he got right up complaining about it afterwards, but that's a fighter's instinct. I've seen boxers who were so punch-drunk they couldn't even walk, arguing with the ref for stopping it.

Or when Ken Taps four times against Gracie and wasn't sure why the fight stopped....

Yes, you can't argue with it, but it was quick....
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Old 07-09-2006, 10:55 PM   #107 (permalink)
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AA vs Sylvia: Horrible fight. Neither of them wanted the title, they didn't want to be knocked out. I liked AA's strategy and thought that he could win by out scoring Tim. The last round I think AA just wanted to go home. His jabs were a foot away. He couldn't have thought that he was winning at that point but I think he really did. Tim's hands looked faster than ever. These two guys respected each other way too much.

Ortiz vs Shamrock: Please let Ken retire already. Herb Dean had no choice. If you get hit with 6 bionic elbows without even putting one hand up or at least trying to avoid them, the ref has to stop that fight. Nice burst at first for Ken but the take down defense and overall wrestling skills of Tito took over quickly and then the rain of elbows started. Tito shouldn't waste any more of his time on this washed up fighter.

Mir vs Christinson: Mir looked completely drugged up (I've noticed a lot of the fighters look that way, and I don't mean steroids, I mean speed, coke, type of drugs). I didn't think he won the fight. Both of these guys need a lot of work if they would like to be seen in more fights.

Yves vs ?: Yves got cut bad and I thought he was going to bleed to death before big John sent him to see the doctor. It was good to let him finish the first round and then stop the fight.

Monson vs ?: Because of the 5 round bore fest I only got to see about 10 seconds of Monson smashing some guys face in. With no other contenders out there, this has to be the next guy that Tim will face. No use for Tim to fight Mir unless he just wants to beat the snot out of somebody.

It will be nice to see 2 super aggressive fighters like Wanderlei and Iceman go at it. I'm tiring of some of these guys that get their shot and then appear to be camera shy or something. Tank Abbott might have been a horrible tactical fighter but at least you knew that he was gonna keep throwing punches until the end of the fight.
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Old 07-10-2006, 10:52 AM   #108 (permalink)
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Ortiz Is The Man!!!

This is why I love him!!!
Any woman loves a man who does what he says.
Shamrock should be ashamed not only does he come up short as a coach,
But you'd think he would retire with a little grace considering his history.
Move over grandpa!!!!
My Tito will only excel further from here.
But Next time honey........ a minute flat okay?
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Old 07-10-2006, 01:04 PM   #109 (permalink)
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Just watched it and that was complete bull-shit i have to say. noway that fight should have been stopped.
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Old 07-10-2006, 02:49 PM   #110 (permalink)
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The only reason Shamrock went on Ultimate Fighter in the first place is because he knew he would get to fight Tito in the end. He wasn't there to train and he wasn't there to care. He was just waiting the whole thing out so he could have another chance with Tito again, the show was just a means to get him in the ring.
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