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UFC 61 BITTER RIVALS

UFC 61 Bitter Rivals, will be held on Saturday, July 8 at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Date: 07/08/2006 10:00 PM
Event Type: PPV Live
Location: Mandalay Bay

Tim Sylvia Vs. Andrei Arlovski

Tito Ortiz Vs. Ken Shamrock

Dan Christison Vs. Frank Mir

Josh Burkman Vs. Josh Neer

Yves Edwards Vs. Joe Stevenson

Drew Fickett Vs. Kurt Pellegrino

Jeff Monson Vs. Anthony Perosh

Gilbert Aldana Vs. Cheick Kongo

Hermes Franca Vs. Joe Jordan

Featured on the card will be the concluding chapter of the trilogy between UFC heavyweight champion Tim Sylvia and former champion Andrei Arlovski, and the long awaited rematch between arch-enemies Tito Ortiz and Ken Shamrock.

Sylvia, 30, won the title at UFC 59 on April 15 by getting up off the mat to stop Arlovski at 2:43 of the first round. The 6-foot-1, 265-pounder floored the “Pit Bull” with a right hand and quickly pounced with a flurry of punches, forcing the stoppage.

The 6-4, 240-pound Arlovski beat Sylvia in February of 2005 in a mere 47 seconds, forcing a submission with an ankle lock.

The score will be settled in July.

“I’m excited about going out there to fight Arlovski again,” said Sylvia. “He’s the best in the heavyweight division - next to me.”

The featured bout on the UFC 61 card will be another one that fans will be itching to see: Tito Ortiz vs. Ken Shamrock. The coaches from “The Ultimate Fighter 3” have been going at it for months during the show and will finally have the chance to settle their differences in the best way: battling it out in the octagon.

Not that the hatred between the two is anything new. Its roots can actually be traced to a 1999 UFC show in Bay St. Louis, Miss. Shamrock, who was coaching at the time, had one of his fighters go up against Ortiz, who was a newcomer to the scene. Ortiz won, but Shamrock felt his performance was disrespectful and the two had words.

They had a chance to settle things at UFC 40 in November of 2002. Ortiz won the fight by TKO after the third round when Shamrock’s corner felt its fighter had had enough.

The Spike TV show has obviously brought the rivalry back to a head.

Bet on Ortiz vs Shamrock

Bet on Sylvia vs Arlovski

Two Important Matchups Added to UFC 61 Card


There will be plenty on the line when UFC 61 – Bitter Rivals takes place at the Mandalay Bay Events Center on Saturday, July 8th, and not just in the featured bouts between Tito Ortiz and Ken Shamrock, and Tim Sylvia and Andrei Arlovski.

In an intriguing heavyweight clash, former UFC champion Frank Mir will hope that his second comeback fight is more successful than his first when he tackles emerging contender Dan Christison. Frank Mir vs Dan Christison

At UFC 57 in February, over 16 months after a severe leg injury put him on the shelf, Mir returned to the Octagon against Brazil’s Marcio Cruz and was stopped in the first round. But with five more months of training to get his game back to where it was before the injury, the Las Vegan is ready to once again make a statement in the heavyweight division.

Standing in his way will be 6-8, 265 pound Dan Christison, a member of the cast of ‘The Ultimate Fighter’, season two, who made a huge splash in the big show on April 6th when he submitted season two TUF finalist Brad Imes in the second round of an entertaining war that was one of the best fights of 2006 thus far.

Also added to the UFC 61 card is a meeting of two highly-regarded welterweight prospects, Josh Neer and Josh Burkman.

Neer, a member of the renowned Miletich Fighting Systems team, scored his second Octagon win in April when he upset season two TUF welterweight winner Joe Stevenson via a hard-fought three round unanimous decision. On that same show, Utah’s Burkman suffered his first UFC loss when he was submitted by Jon Fitch in the second round. With the talent-rich welterweight division heating up, the winner of this match will make huge strides up the 170-pound ladder.
 
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#27 ·
IronMan said:
I think we all saw how the "Lion's" Den works and I wasn't impressed at all. I think that if Tito had a camp, and he should, it would be pretty succesful. His buddy Boogeyman did realy well in 60, maybe they've got something going.

I think Tito will crush Ken, just because the Ken Shamrock of today is not the "World's Most Dangerous Man."

I think that the Arlovski/Sylvia fight will be more fun to watch. Andrei is a beast and Tim is a giant, so anything can happen. I want Andrei to win, but I know that at any moment Sylvia can land one of those giant right hands and the fight will be over.

I'm counting on Arlovski by submission again.

i think arlovski can do it, but like u said its one of those fights which anything sudden and damaging can happen.
too bad i wont be able to watch it :(
 
#28 ·
rana said:
i think arlovski can do it, but like u said its one of those fights which anything sudden and damaging can happen.
too bad i wont be able to watch it :(
That suck's that you'll be missing it. I absolutely think that in MMA anything can happen to change the result of a fight, but in Sylvia v Arlovski it's even more drastic. If the fight goes to the ground then aa can catch a submission or just pound the crap out of tim, but if their standing either one can knock the other out with big shot.
 
#29 ·
Arlovski wil get his revenge

after watching the second arlovski vs. sylvia again and again, I think it was stopped too early... arlovski was still covering the shots... woudn't be surprised if the ref was instructed to favor sylvia.... I truly hope I am wrong....aaaaagggghhhh .....again, the ratings will be better with a rubber match between the two... In my opinion, arlovski is the superior fighter
 
#30 ·
The Don said:
I think that will be Tito greatest offense making Ken angry, granted I would not want to be the object of Kens anger but if your prepared and all I have seen of Tito he usually comes prepared it will make it that much easier.
now I want to see Ken succeed where GRacie failed Ken being an older guy. I'd like to see him win but even I place him as an underdog here
well I hope that Ortiz will beat Shamrock. I was really bummed when Gracie lost to Hughes. I was hoping that Gracie would've won. Go TITO!!!! BEAT DOWN SHAMROCK!!!
 
#31 ·
Once again people are going for who they think is the popular one.
Arlovski beats Sylvia and Ortiz beats Shamrock.
I think its the other way around.

Sylvia beat Arlovski clean, so theres no reason why he won't do it again. Don't count him out.

Did anyone see Shamrock beat KIMO? By the looks of it, it doesn't seem like anyone here did. Don't count Shamrock out either, he will have learned from his first fight with Tito and probably has a different gameplan. He was also injured at the time, and has now since been training with different people.
Not to mention Ortiz is nothing like he used to be, it looks like hes lost 'it'.
 
#32 ·
Juventud2222 said:
Once again people are going for who they think is the popular one.
Arlovski beats Sylvia and Ortiz beats Shamrock.
I think its the other way around.

Sylvia beat Arlovski clean, so theres no reason why he won't do it again. Don't count him out.

Did anyone see Shamrock beat KIMO? By the looks of it, it doesn't seem like anyone here did. Don't count Shamrock out either, he will have learned from his first fight with Tito and probably has a different gameplan. He was also injured at the time, and has now since been training with different people.
Not to mention Ortiz is nothing like he used to be, it looks like hes lost 'it'.
If anyone's lost 'it' it's gotta be Ken. Yes he beat Kimo, but there's no way that he'll beat Tito. Ken can't groundnpound Tito and so he loses his biggest advantage.

Arlovski is the more well rounded fighter than Sylvia and I'm not counting sylvia out but arlovski can win fights on his feet and on the ground. He proved that he has more power than Sylvia, if you watch their Cabbage fights side by side you can tell. I like the Belarussian.

Pitbull and the Bad Boy. They're popular for a reason.
 
#33 ·
Im just saying, i couldn't see Ortiz beating Kimo. I think Shamrock knows this is his last fight if he loses, so hes going to be fully ready.

Sylvia knocked him out once, theres nothing stopping him doing it again. Arlovski is a quicker striker but hes probably better off trying something on the ground.
I saw both Cabbage fights, i think they both inflicted the same amount of damage on him. Just in different ways.
 
#34 ·
Confirmed Ufc 61 Card And 62 Main Event

THIS IS EXCLUSIVE INFO FRM O.C REGISTER

Announced matchups
Light Heavyweight Bout: Tito Ortiz vs. Ken Shamrock
Heavyweight Championship Bout: Tim Sylvia vs. Andrei Arlovski
Heavyweight Bout: Cheick Kongo vs Gilbert Aldana
Heavyweight Bout: Dan Christison vs. Frank Mir
Welterweight Bout: Josh Burkman vs. Josh Neer
Lightweight Bout: Joe Stevenson vs Yves Edwards

and the main event for ufc 62 will be
chuck liddell vs. renato sobral
 
#35 ·
Two Important Matchups Added to UFC 61 Card

There will be plenty on the line when UFC 61 – Bitter Rivals takes place at the Mandalay Bay Events Center on Saturday, July 8th, and not just in the featured bouts between Tito Ortiz and Ken Shamrock, and Tim Sylvia and Andrei Arlovski.

In an intriguing heavyweight clash, former UFC champion Frank Mir will hope that his second comeback fight is more successful than his first when he tackles emerging contender Dan Christison.

At UFC 57 in February, over 16 months after a severe leg injury put him on the shelf, Mir returned to the Octagon against Brazil’s Marcio Cruz and was stopped in the first round. But with five more months of training to get his game back to where it was before the injury, the Las Vegan is ready to once again make a statement in the heavyweight division.

Standing in his way will be 6-8, 265 pound Dan Christison, a member of the cast of ‘The Ultimate Fighter’, season two, who made a huge splash in the big show on April 6th when he submitted season two TUF finalist Brad Imes in the second round of an entertaining war that was one of the best fights of 2006 thus far.

Also added to the UFC 61 card is a meeting of two highly-regarded welterweight prospects, Josh Neer and Josh Burkman.

Neer, a member of the renowned Miletich Fighting Systems team, scored his second Octagon win in April when he upset season two TUF welterweight winner Joe Stevenson via a hard-fought three round unanimous decision. On that same show, Utah’s Burkman suffered his first UFC loss when he was submitted by Jon Fitch in the second round. With the talent-rich welterweight division heating up, the winner of this match will make huge strides up the 170-pound ladder.
 
#36 ·
acenumber2 said:
THIS IS EXCLUSIVE INFO FRM O.C REGISTER

Announced matchups
Light Heavyweight Bout: Tito Ortiz vs. Ken Shamrock
Heavyweight Championship Bout: Tim Sylvia vs. Andrei Arlovski
Heavyweight Bout: Cheick Kongo vs Gilbert Aldana
Heavyweight Bout: Dan Christison vs. Frank Mir
Welterweight Bout: Josh Burkman vs. Josh Neer
Lightweight Bout: Joe Stevenson vs Yves Edwards

and the main event for ufc 62 will be
chuck liddell vs. renato sobral
sounds pretty good to me!!!

a lot of heavy weight bouts...
 
#37 ·
acenumber2 said:
THIS IS EXCLUSIVE INFO FRM O.C REGISTER

Announced matchups
Light Heavyweight Bout: Tito Ortiz vs. Ken Shamrock
Heavyweight Championship Bout: Tim Sylvia vs. Andrei Arlovski
Heavyweight Bout: Cheick Kongo vs Gilbert Aldana
Heavyweight Bout: Dan Christison vs. Frank Mir
Welterweight Bout: Josh Burkman vs. Josh Neer
Lightweight Bout: Joe Stevenson vs Yves Edwards

and the main event for ufc 62 will be
chuck liddell vs. renato sobral
Liddell's going to beat sobral's face in.

I like the UFC 61 card though. Keep us posted on the last 2 fights.
 
#38 ·
Juventud2222 said:
Im just saying, i couldn't see Ortiz beating Kimo. I think Shamrock knows this is his last fight if he loses, so hes going to be fully ready.

Sylvia knocked him out once, theres nothing stopping him doing it again. Arlovski is a quicker striker but hes probably better off trying something on the ground.
I saw both Cabbage fights, i think they both inflicted the same amount of damage on him. Just in different ways.
I can see Tito KOing Kimo, though he might have trouble taking him down. I just don't think highly of Kimo, though he does have a good history.

I agree that Sylvia could KO arlovski, but arlovski has more power, more quickness and I think he takes a punch better too. I thought that they both did the same amount of damage in the cabage fights, but then I watched them closely and realized the biggest difference, Cabbage landed shots on aa, he didn't land any on Sylvia.

I don't think that Sylvia can take a punch well enough to compete with andrei, but we'll get to see in a few weeks.
 
#39 ·
Juventud2222 said:
Once again people are going for who they think is the popular one.
Arlovski beats Sylvia and Ortiz beats Shamrock.
I think its the other way around.

Sylvia beat Arlovski clean, so theres no reason why he won't do it again. Don't count him out.

Did anyone see Shamrock beat KIMO? By the looks of it, it doesn't seem like anyone here did. Don't count Shamrock out either, he will have learned from his first fight with Tito and probably has a different gameplan. He was also injured at the time, and has now since been training with different people.
Not to mention Ortiz is nothing like he used to be, it looks like hes lost 'it'.
I'm not going for who I think is popular! I think that Arlovski has learned from his past fight with Sylvia. With Ortiz and Shamrock. Shamrock lets his anger get in the way. He hates Ortiz. HE gets so mad at him and then it goes downhill from there.
 
#41 ·
Ortiz_fan_101 said:
I'm not going for who I think is popular! I think that Arlovski has learned from his past fight with Sylvia. With Ortiz and Shamrock. Shamrock lets his anger get in the way. He hates Ortiz. HE gets so mad at him and then it goes downhill from there.
And remember, Arlovski beat HIMSELF! Silvia was on his way to getting whooped again.
 
#42 ·
I hope Ken Shamrock destroys Tito Ortiz. Ken is my favourite MMA fighter of all time, always did like him as a child in the WWE.
 
#50 · (Edited)
It's not that Liddell's opponents don't try to take him down, it's that they can't, they do try, but Liddell has an excellent sprawl and he has great take down defense, if they do manage to get him down he is hard to keep down, but I think it will be a decent rematch with Renato "Babalu" Sobral. I see Liddell taking this fight by knockout just like last time, but instead of a kick I think he'll knock out Sobral with a punch. Also, Horn believed that Liddell's was a more powerful striker but he believed that he was a much cleaner striker than Liddell, so at UFC 54:Boiling Point he decided to throw with him but then Liddell rocked him with a few big punches, so Horn tried taking him down and probably would have if he would have had perfect vision but after Liddell hit him, he found it hard to see, which in the 4th round became too much and Horn told McCarthy that he couldn't see, so he called an end to the fight, if Horn wouldn't have been hit with a good number of punches and was able to see well, I would have thought he would have won the fight by submission. I am a huge Jeremy Horn fan aswell :).
 
#51 ·
UFCFAN33 said:
Anthony Perosh ....Who is this guy?
He's some 5-1 fighter who's wins have all been in the first round submissions. His only loss was unanimous decision to Sam Nest (a 16-1 fighter). Perosh will be making his UFC debut if he fights Jeff Monson at UFC 61. Perosh has fought in Warriors Realm in his last fight and Spartan Reality Fight. Jeff Monson is going to own Perosh if they do fight at UFC 61.
 
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