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Old 06-07-2006, 04:45 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Once again people are going for who they think is the popular one.
Arlovski beats Sylvia and Ortiz beats Shamrock.
I think its the other way around.

Sylvia beat Arlovski clean, so theres no reason why he won't do it again. Don't count him out.

Did anyone see Shamrock beat KIMO? By the looks of it, it doesn't seem like anyone here did. Don't count Shamrock out either, he will have learned from his first fight with Tito and probably has a different gameplan. He was also injured at the time, and has now since been training with different people.
Not to mention Ortiz is nothing like he used to be, it looks like hes lost 'it'.
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Old 06-07-2006, 02:08 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Once again people are going for who they think is the popular one.
Arlovski beats Sylvia and Ortiz beats Shamrock.
I think its the other way around.

Sylvia beat Arlovski clean, so theres no reason why he won't do it again. Don't count him out.

Did anyone see Shamrock beat KIMO? By the looks of it, it doesn't seem like anyone here did. Don't count Shamrock out either, he will have learned from his first fight with Tito and probably has a different gameplan. He was also injured at the time, and has now since been training with different people.
Not to mention Ortiz is nothing like he used to be, it looks like hes lost 'it'.
If anyone's lost 'it' it's gotta be Ken. Yes he beat Kimo, but there's no way that he'll beat Tito. Ken can't groundnpound Tito and so he loses his biggest advantage.

Arlovski is the more well rounded fighter than Sylvia and I'm not counting sylvia out but arlovski can win fights on his feet and on the ground. He proved that he has more power than Sylvia, if you watch their Cabbage fights side by side you can tell. I like the Belarussian.

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Old 06-07-2006, 02:54 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Im just saying, i couldn't see Ortiz beating Kimo. I think Shamrock knows this is his last fight if he loses, so hes going to be fully ready.

Sylvia knocked him out once, theres nothing stopping him doing it again. Arlovski is a quicker striker but hes probably better off trying something on the ground.
I saw both Cabbage fights, i think they both inflicted the same amount of damage on him. Just in different ways.
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Confirmed Ufc 61 Card And 62 Main Event

THIS IS EXCLUSIVE INFO FRM O.C REGISTER

Announced matchups
Light Heavyweight Bout: Tito Ortiz vs. Ken Shamrock
Heavyweight Championship Bout: Tim Sylvia vs. Andrei Arlovski
Heavyweight Bout: Cheick Kongo vs Gilbert Aldana
Heavyweight Bout: Dan Christison vs. Frank Mir
Welterweight Bout: Josh Burkman vs. Josh Neer
Lightweight Bout: Joe Stevenson vs Yves Edwards

and the main event for ufc 62 will be
chuck liddell vs. renato sobral
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Old 06-07-2006, 03:55 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Two Important Matchups Added to UFC 61 Card

There will be plenty on the line when UFC 61 – Bitter Rivals takes place at the Mandalay Bay Events Center on Saturday, July 8th, and not just in the featured bouts between Tito Ortiz and Ken Shamrock, and Tim Sylvia and Andrei Arlovski.

In an intriguing heavyweight clash, former UFC champion Frank Mir will hope that his second comeback fight is more successful than his first when he tackles emerging contender Dan Christison.

At UFC 57 in February, over 16 months after a severe leg injury put him on the shelf, Mir returned to the Octagon against Brazil’s Marcio Cruz and was stopped in the first round. But with five more months of training to get his game back to where it was before the injury, the Las Vegan is ready to once again make a statement in the heavyweight division.

Standing in his way will be 6-8, 265 pound Dan Christison, a member of the cast of ‘The Ultimate Fighter’, season two, who made a huge splash in the big show on April 6th when he submitted season two TUF finalist Brad Imes in the second round of an entertaining war that was one of the best fights of 2006 thus far.

Also added to the UFC 61 card is a meeting of two highly-regarded welterweight prospects, Josh Neer and Josh Burkman.

Neer, a member of the renowned Miletich Fighting Systems team, scored his second Octagon win in April when he upset season two TUF welterweight winner Joe Stevenson via a hard-fought three round unanimous decision. On that same show, Utah’s Burkman suffered his first UFC loss when he was submitted by Jon Fitch in the second round. With the talent-rich welterweight division heating up, the winner of this match will make huge strides up the 170-pound ladder.
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THIS IS EXCLUSIVE INFO FRM O.C REGISTER

Announced matchups
Light Heavyweight Bout: Tito Ortiz vs. Ken Shamrock
Heavyweight Championship Bout: Tim Sylvia vs. Andrei Arlovski
Heavyweight Bout: Cheick Kongo vs Gilbert Aldana
Heavyweight Bout: Dan Christison vs. Frank Mir
Welterweight Bout: Josh Burkman vs. Josh Neer
Lightweight Bout: Joe Stevenson vs Yves Edwards

and the main event for ufc 62 will be
chuck liddell vs. renato sobral
sounds pretty good to me!!!

a lot of heavy weight bouts...
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THIS IS EXCLUSIVE INFO FRM O.C REGISTER

Announced matchups
Light Heavyweight Bout: Tito Ortiz vs. Ken Shamrock
Heavyweight Championship Bout: Tim Sylvia vs. Andrei Arlovski
Heavyweight Bout: Cheick Kongo vs Gilbert Aldana
Heavyweight Bout: Dan Christison vs. Frank Mir
Welterweight Bout: Josh Burkman vs. Josh Neer
Lightweight Bout: Joe Stevenson vs Yves Edwards

and the main event for ufc 62 will be
chuck liddell vs. renato sobral
Liddell's going to beat sobral's face in.

I like the UFC 61 card though. Keep us posted on the last 2 fights.
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Im just saying, i couldn't see Ortiz beating Kimo. I think Shamrock knows this is his last fight if he loses, so hes going to be fully ready.

Sylvia knocked him out once, theres nothing stopping him doing it again. Arlovski is a quicker striker but hes probably better off trying something on the ground.
I saw both Cabbage fights, i think they both inflicted the same amount of damage on him. Just in different ways.
I can see Tito KOing Kimo, though he might have trouble taking him down. I just don't think highly of Kimo, though he does have a good history.

I agree that Sylvia could KO arlovski, but arlovski has more power, more quickness and I think he takes a punch better too. I thought that they both did the same amount of damage in the cabage fights, but then I watched them closely and realized the biggest difference, Cabbage landed shots on aa, he didn't land any on Sylvia.

I don't think that Sylvia can take a punch well enough to compete with andrei, but we'll get to see in a few weeks.
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Once again people are going for who they think is the popular one.
Arlovski beats Sylvia and Ortiz beats Shamrock.
I think its the other way around.

Sylvia beat Arlovski clean, so theres no reason why he won't do it again. Don't count him out.

Did anyone see Shamrock beat KIMO? By the looks of it, it doesn't seem like anyone here did. Don't count Shamrock out either, he will have learned from his first fight with Tito and probably has a different gameplan. He was also injured at the time, and has now since been training with different people.
Not to mention Ortiz is nothing like he used to be, it looks like hes lost 'it'.
I'm not going for who I think is popular! I think that Arlovski has learned from his past fight with Sylvia. With Ortiz and Shamrock. Shamrock lets his anger get in the way. He hates Ortiz. HE gets so mad at him and then it goes downhill from there.
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just bought my tickets and i'm going to vegas baby! This will be my first ufc live, can't wait to see the action! imo tito over shamrock and aa over silvia.
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