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post #51 of 127 (permalink) Old 06-20-2006, 08:35 PM
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Anthony Perosh ....Who is this guy?
He's some 5-1 fighter who's wins have all been in the first round submissions. His only loss was unanimous decision to Sam Nest (a 16-1 fighter). Perosh will be making his UFC debut if he fights Jeff Monson at UFC 61. Perosh has fought in Warriors Realm in his last fight and Spartan Reality Fight. Jeff Monson is going to own Perosh if they do fight at UFC 61.
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post #52 of 127 (permalink) Old 06-21-2006, 03:31 AM
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Arlovski wins first round KO I bet, Tito wins unanimous decision against batter Ken, who will retire hopefully after the match to stop disgracing his brother Frank's last name.
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What fight is the main event @ UFC 61

Ortiz & Shamrock or Sylvia & Arlovski. My guess would be Ortiz and Shamrock because of their first fight and they truly hate each other and you can't say that for Arlovski and Sylvia that they truly hate each other.
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From what i read it is a double main event..If that isnt true i would think that the title match would be it.
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thats what i figured
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Tito guaranteed victory. Here's why...

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This is my first post to MMA Forum. I am the owner of UltimateFightingChampionship.com. We are in prelaunch and have noticed the MMA Forum's Adwords Ad on our website. According to our stats, a lot of people click on through the ad on our site and end up here. Glad we can help.

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Here's UltimateFightingChampionship.com's two cents on the Shamrock Ortiz rematch...

Tito wins because he is still close to his prime and is a more evolved fighter than Shamrock. Ken, by his own admission is "not a Jiu Jitsu guy." In today's MMA world, you have to be a Jiu Jitsu guy, just like you have to be a grappling guy, and a striking guy, and a kick boxing guy, and a...

One dimensional fighters can win an occasional fight, especially if they're heavy handed, but in one hundred matches, the well rounded MMA competitor will win over 90% of the fights.

A fighter like Chuck Liddell seems one dimensional because we rarely see him on the ground, in the guard. But, that's only because he has great takedown defense and doesn't shoot on his opponents, though he has exceptional wrestling skills as is evidenced by that great takedown defense.

The Iceman chooses to stay on his feet and slug because his heavy hands are even more dominant than his incredible ground game.

Shamrock has submitted opponents, but no one of significance. He has lost a decent amount of fights recently, a couple that were questionable, but still defeats.

His early MMA victories were against opponents who were not well rounded fighters. It was a sport in its infancy when Shamrock reached his prominence, and he was thoroughly outclassed quickly by the first well rounded fighter he faced: Royce Gracie.

Ken fought not to lose in the rematch and came away with a boring draw.

I may sound as if I'm anti Shamrock, but that is not the case. I'm a fan, but I believe that today's fighters have the advantage of training in all areas of fighting from day one, and they watch tapes of the legends like Royce Gracie and pick apart his Gracie Jiu Jitsu.

It's actually unfair to guys like Royce. The entire MMA world watched his matches and developed a style to counter it because he was so dominant. That's why Matt Hughes did so well against Gracie; he had over a decade of MMA training to combat Gracie Jiu Jitsu (actually, Royce's interpretation of it) behind him. He also had youth, weight, and strength on his side.

It will be a similar scenario between Tito and Ken. I like tito also. He's a good guy, but it's always sad to see the legends fall to the wayside, left defeated on their shields of battle.

I'm afraid that's what we have to look forward to. We'll see.

I look forward to posting after the fight.

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Cool It's gonna be great!

All I have to say is that I'll be there in Vegas to watch the fight and my moneys on Ortiz and Arlovski, it's going to be great I can't wait to see Arlovski get his belt back and even more see Tito kick the $hit! out of Ken and retire his gluteus maximus once in for all.
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He's some 5-1 fighter who's wins have all been in the first round submissions. His only loss was unanimous decision to Sam Nest (a 16-1 fighter). Perosh will be making his UFC debut if he fights Jeff Monson at UFC 61. Perosh has fought in Warriors Realm in his last fight and Spartan Reality Fight. Jeff Monson is going to own Perosh if they do fight at UFC 61.
Perosh runs an mma academy with Elvish Sinosic in Australia. They have a website at http://www.sinosicperosh.com.au/

Monson should have the heavy advantage on the feet, so he might try to stand and knock him out. Too bad it won't air on ppv.
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I don't think Ken Shamrock should retire after UFC 61, win or lose. He should have one more match against Royce Gracie.


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I wish I was in Vegas for this weekend... i would go to the event

ya i know. i wish i could pick out some of the ppl i could train with even though i dont fight. it would be kwl.
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