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UFC 61 Bitter Rivals: Shamrock vs Ortiz, Arlovski vs Sylvia - OFFICIAL THREAD

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UFC 61 BITTER RIVALS

UFC 61 Bitter Rivals, will be held on Saturday, July 8 at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Date: 07/08/2006 10:00 PM
Event Type: PPV Live
Location: Mandalay Bay

Tim Sylvia Vs. Andrei Arlovski

Tito Ortiz Vs. Ken Shamrock

Dan Christison Vs. Frank Mir

Josh Burkman Vs. Josh Neer

Yves Edwards Vs. Joe Stevenson

Drew Fickett Vs. Kurt Pellegrino

Jeff Monson Vs. Anthony Perosh

Gilbert Aldana Vs. Cheick Kongo

Hermes Franca Vs. Joe Jordan

Featured on the card will be the concluding chapter of the trilogy between UFC heavyweight champion Tim Sylvia and former champion Andrei Arlovski, and the long awaited rematch between arch-enemies Tito Ortiz and Ken Shamrock.

Sylvia, 30, won the title at UFC 59 on April 15 by getting up off the mat to stop Arlovski at 2:43 of the first round. The 6-foot-1, 265-pounder floored the “Pit Bull” with a right hand and quickly pounced with a flurry of punches, forcing the stoppage.

The 6-4, 240-pound Arlovski beat Sylvia in February of 2005 in a mere 47 seconds, forcing a submission with an ankle lock.

The score will be settled in July.

“I’m excited about going out there to fight Arlovski again,” said Sylvia. “He’s the best in the heavyweight division - next to me.”

The featured bout on the UFC 61 card will be another one that fans will be itching to see: Tito Ortiz vs. Ken Shamrock. The coaches from “The Ultimate Fighter 3” have been going at it for months during the show and will finally have the chance to settle their differences in the best way: battling it out in the octagon.

Not that the hatred between the two is anything new. Its roots can actually be traced to a 1999 UFC show in Bay St. Louis, Miss. Shamrock, who was coaching at the time, had one of his fighters go up against Ortiz, who was a newcomer to the scene. Ortiz won, but Shamrock felt his performance was disrespectful and the two had words.

They had a chance to settle things at UFC 40 in November of 2002. Ortiz won the fight by TKO after the third round when Shamrock’s corner felt its fighter had had enough.

The Spike TV show has obviously brought the rivalry back to a head.

Bet on Ortiz vs Shamrock

Bet on Sylvia vs Arlovski

Two Important Matchups Added to UFC 61 Card


There will be plenty on the line when UFC 61 – Bitter Rivals takes place at the Mandalay Bay Events Center on Saturday, July 8th, and not just in the featured bouts between Tito Ortiz and Ken Shamrock, and Tim Sylvia and Andrei Arlovski.

In an intriguing heavyweight clash, former UFC champion Frank Mir will hope that his second comeback fight is more successful than his first when he tackles emerging contender Dan Christison. Frank Mir vs Dan Christison

At UFC 57 in February, over 16 months after a severe leg injury put him on the shelf, Mir returned to the Octagon against Brazil’s Marcio Cruz and was stopped in the first round. But with five more months of training to get his game back to where it was before the injury, the Las Vegan is ready to once again make a statement in the heavyweight division.

Standing in his way will be 6-8, 265 pound Dan Christison, a member of the cast of ‘The Ultimate Fighter’, season two, who made a huge splash in the big show on April 6th when he submitted season two TUF finalist Brad Imes in the second round of an entertaining war that was one of the best fights of 2006 thus far.

Also added to the UFC 61 card is a meeting of two highly-regarded welterweight prospects, Josh Neer and Josh Burkman.

Neer, a member of the renowned Miletich Fighting Systems team, scored his second Octagon win in April when he upset season two TUF welterweight winner Joe Stevenson via a hard-fought three round unanimous decision. On that same show, Utah’s Burkman suffered his first UFC loss when he was submitted by Jon Fitch in the second round. With the talent-rich welterweight division heating up, the winner of this match will make huge strides up the 170-pound ladder.
 
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Official Thread, very nice.
I would love for Shamrock to win and have it at one win a piece. I'm afraid Ortiz has Shamrocks' number and he will come out on top of the fight.

Arlovski has already beaten Sylvia once and I though he was going to win and retain his title but that didn't happen. Sylvia may be champ now but at the end of the night Arlovski will be crowned champion. I've already placed my bets how bout you.
 
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UFCFAN33 said:
if shamrock loses this one he deff should retire. maybe he should train with some of his fighters from the tv show that could help
bwahahaha....

but seriously, i lost a lot of respect for Shamrock watching the tv show. he does **** all to train those kids. ive always kinda liked Tito but now i respect him A LOT more. he goes in there and shows those kids how to kick some ass.

as much as i would like to see Shamrock win, just for the sake of him getting a win, i dont think he will pull it out. hes a mess!
 
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Some rumored bouts for UFC 61

CONFIRMED
-Tim Sylvia vs. Andrei Arlovski
-Tito Ortiz vs. Ken Shamrock

LIKELY (rumors only)

-Joe Stevenson vs. Yves Edwards
-Frank Mir vs. Dan Christison
-Jeff Monson vs. TBA

POSSIBLE (rumors)

Griffen vs. tba - was scheduled to fight Tammy when Tito was hurt
Penn vs. Parysian
Newton vs. Quarry - old rumor
 
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I disagree.

I think Silvia will flatten AA, and Shamrock will tap out Ortiz. Silvia did land a half assed punch in they're last bout, but it hit. All that matters is the hitting. I think Silvia will KO AA before he has a chance to submit him. And my guess for Shamrock is me remembering how good he used to be. I hope to see the Shamrock that could fight for half an hour at a time. He need to focus a lot for this fight, because he IS the underdog, though I beleive he can pull it off.
 
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Kameleon said:
Official Thread, very nice.
I would love for Shamrock to win and have it at one win a piece. I'm afraid Ortiz has Shamrocks' number and he will come out on top of the fight.

Arlovski has already beaten Sylvia once and I though he was going to win and retain his title but that didn't happen. Sylvia may be champ now but at the end of the night Arlovski will be crowned champion. I've already placed my bets how bout you.
Arlovski in my opinon will win if he doesn't get hit in the jaw. Sylvia only beat him when he hit Arlovski in the jaw. I also think that Ortiz will dominate Shamrock. Shamrock lets his anger get in the way of things. As you've noticed on Ultimate Fighter 3.
 
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ColossalCanadian said:
Fantastic, Ima have to go with Ortiz, and Silvia, also, 60 was just on my 21st birthday and had a fantastic time, and 61 is set to be on my brothers 25th birthday, should be another helluva time!:D
I have to say that Ortiz will totally beat Shamrock and that Arlovski will beat Sylvia. Sorry but Sylvia only beat Arlovski at 59 by hitting him hard in the jaw and that caused him to fall. That's who I'm goin' with though. Arlovski and Ortiz. All the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cheeky4:
 
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Sylvia is going to rue the day he pressed for this quick re-match. I believe that Arlovski will take the title back sometime in round one via submission. Andre is a very smart fighter that learns from his mistakes and I doubt he will allow Tim another chance to take this fight from him.

If I was Sylvia I'd be sleeping with that belt every night and enjoying the limited time I have with it.

As far as Ortiz and Shamrock... I'd have to say that Ortiz is most likely to win this fight. Ken is no pushover by any stretch and he isn't coming off a knee and back injury like Tito is so he certainly has a punchers chance of winning the fight.
 
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MMA Fanatic said:
Sylvia is going to rue the day he pressed for this quick re-match. I believe that Arlovski will take the title back sometime in round one via submission. Andre is a very smart fighter that learns from his mistakes and I doubt he will allow Tim another chance to take this fight from him.

If I was Sylvia I'd be sleeping with that belt every night and enjoying the limited time I have with it.

As far as Ortiz and Shamrock... I'd have to say that Ortiz is most likely to win this fight. Ken is no pushover by any stretch and he isn't coming off a knee and back injury like Tito is so he certainly has a punchers chance of winning the fight.
I have to agree with you about Arlovski. He is a very smart fighter who doesn't make the same mistake twice. I hope that Arlovski wins the title back. Now the whole thing with Tito and Ken...He is no pushover but Tito in my opinon will beat Ken down!!!
 
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The Don said:
as I think I previously stated if Ken decides to take this seriously and get back to his old fighting from which from what I see he is not in he has a shot as it stands I'd choose tito as well
I don't think he will take it very seriously. Granted he is a fighter that you don't want to underestimate, but he lets his anger get in the way. Because Tito makes Ken mad so easily. But it will be a very good fight. Did you see the Ultimate Fighter 3 Matt beat Mike N. yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:p
 
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I think that will be Tito greatest offense making Ken angry, granted I would not want to be the object of Kens anger but if your prepared and all I have seen of Tito he usually comes prepared it will make it that much easier.
now I want to see Ken succeed where GRacie failed Ken being an older guy. I'd like to see him win but even I place him as an underdog here
 
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shamrock

i do not think alot of you are givin shamrock alot of credit he has lost a few fights latly but remember when he lost to ortiz last time he had a torn acl i hope ken wins this time i honestly think he can pull it off tito barley beat forest so he isnt at the top of his game either it will make a good fight eaither way it will not be a quick fight shamrock has the heart of a lion and will not be put down that easyly. aa will kill sylvia aa is a mutch more talented mma fighter than sylvia i feel sorry for tim as he acually belives he has a chance of winning
 
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tappingUout said:
bwahahaha....

but seriously, i lost a lot of respect for Shamrock watching the tv show. he does **** all to train those kids. ive always kinda liked Tito but now i respect him A LOT more. he goes in there and shows those kids how to kick some ass.

as much as i would like to see Shamrock win, just for the sake of him getting a win, i dont think he will pull it out. hes a mess!
I agree, I used to like Shamrock a lot more than Tito.... But after watching their training methods and seeing their personalities, I have become a bnigger fan of Tito... I hope Tito whips his ass come UFC 61
 
#26 ·
I think we all saw how the "Lion's" Den works and I wasn't impressed at all. I think that if Tito had a camp, and he should, it would be pretty succesful. His buddy Boogeyman did realy well in 60, maybe they've got something going.

I think Tito will crush Ken, just because the Ken Shamrock of today is not the "World's Most Dangerous Man."

I think that the Arlovski/Sylvia fight will be more fun to watch. Andrei is a beast and Tim is a giant, so anything can happen. I want Andrei to win, but I know that at any moment Sylvia can land one of those giant right hands and the fight will be over.

I'm counting on Arlovski by submission again.
 
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