Originally Posted by WouldLuv2FightU
What do you mean there can't be a double standard. There's plenty of double standards in MMA. You get points for a takedown but you don't get points for getting it back up to your feet. Your allowed to use the cage to press your opponent up against it but you can't grab the cage to get out of the bad position. Who's to tell you you can't grab a part of your own body to prevent ONE kind of submission. He shouldn't have been in the position in the first place, but at the same time GSP could have moved to a better position where Kos wasn't able to grab his own shorts. If the fighters went in their naked would there be any controversy if he grabbed his own thigh to prevent it?
And yea it would be a ***got move to depants the other fighter and you would get a point taken away, cuz it's an illegal move. If it was legal don't you think that would be a perfect way to escape a takedown or submission? By pulling his shorts down. If it was legal no matter how ***goty it may be I am sure there would be a few guys utilizing it. You're in there to win the fight, not get the other guy in a position where you could POTENTIALLY win the fight. If Kos wanted to risk ripping his pants or whatever, then that should be fine. They're his shorts. Not anyone else's. I guarantee he isn't the only fighter to do that. There's no way nobody else thought of doing that at some other point in time over the last 10 years. People are pointing it out to make Kos look like more of a douche than he already is, and to make it seem like GSP got jipped out of a kimura. Maybe GSP should have gotten out of half guard if he really wanted that kimura.
Just want to point out that you do get points for stuffing a takedown.
Also, since it's one of your main arguments, shorts are not part of your body ?
There could possibly also have other submissions with your own shorts! A triangle hold, with your leg behind his neck, you take your shorts and wrap it around his neck..blood choke.
Also, you can use your own short as a leverage point to reverse/sweep your opponent.
And if grabbing your opponent's shorts is illegal mainly for decency purpose(i dont want to see Zulu's ass.. and it did happen), which is not, then i dont see how loosing your own shorts is more decent than taking your opponent's shorts away.
I think it should be illegal, but at the same time, it's not really important is it ?
Bring Knees to the head, now THAT'S important!