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Ronda Rousey's mother says coach Edmond Taarverydan is 'terrible' and a 'bad person'

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#1 · (Edited)
This was unexpected. Usually she's quite reserved. I thought they, Ronda and Edmond had a very strong connection and bond. I actually like the idea of not coaching her and allowing her to prove to herself that she truly wanted to train. I don't see anything wrong with that. Maybe there's more to the story, but I think it shouldn't have been aired out now as it's going to cause some friction between all of them.

Maybe she feels she's losing her daughter to that team...I dunno. Ann Maria is an intelligent person and I trust her judgement, but I still think they (Edmond/Ronda) work well together.



Ronda Rousey's mother is nothing if not brutally honest. And for the first time, she is making it known how she feels about Rousey's coach.

AnnMaria DeMars is not a fan of Edmond Tarverdyan as a coach or a human being, she told LatiNation in a recently released video.

"I think Edmond is a terrible coach and I will say it publicly," DeMars said. "I think he's a terrible coach. I think he hit the lottery when Ronda walked in there. She was winning before she ever met him. She probably won 99 percent of the judo matches she ever fought in."

DeMars' feelings stem from the fact that Tarverdyan would not train Rousey, the former Olympic judo bronze medalist, for months when she first arrived at Glendale Fighting Club in Los Angeles, mostly because she was a woman. Rousey is now the UFC women's bantamweight champion, the most popular fighter in the world and a burgeoning Hollywood star.

"She was one of the top athletes in the world when she walked in there and he wouldn't even give her the time of day for months," DeMars said. "Somebody like that is a terrible coach. And I think she stays there, because it's like somebody pitches a no-hitter when they're wearing red underwear and they wear that red underwear every day. I think it's superstition and I would caution anybody from going there."

DeMars apparently held back her opinion of Tarverdyan previously. But no longer.

"I told Ronda, 'I'm not going to be quiet about this anymore,'" Rousey said. "He's a bad person and people should not go there. And if he wants to sue me, that's my honest opinion."

http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/10/...her-says-daughters-coach-edmond-tarverydan-is
 
#3 ·
Jessamyn Duke, Shayna Baszler, Jake Ellenberger, Travis Browne and Gegard Mousasi are probably the most visible people to work with Ronda's coach recently.

Ronda is the only one out of all of them who seems to be doing well.
 
#4 ·
I had no idea Moose was there, but Jake and TB have been on a losing streak. Moose lost, but that wasn't due to bad game planning or anything.

I never viewed him as an MMA coach, but more of a boxing coach. I don't see anything that would show me he's what she says, but who knows. I find it strange it's being voiced now especially after all those title defenses. But yah she's talented enough to have thrived anywhere...
 
#7 ·
Rondas mum being Rondas mom. No surprise.

Male MMA coach ignoring the first girls to join his gym. No surprise there either.

Male MMA fans as a whole pretty much ignored women's MMA for ages. I certainly did, not that I'm particularly proud of it in hindsight.

As for Edmond, I can't look at him without laughing. He has such a mean face. Like a total douche. Reminds my of one of my buddies from younger days. He was a douche as well, but a funny douche.:hug:
 
#8 ·
Agree with everything. When Women were still in SF I couldn't bare that shit. I had a bad feeling inside me similarly to how I feel when I watch street fights - doesn't feel right. I've grown to it now and don't mind women beating the crapola out of each other anymore lol.

And I was about to say that he kinda does look like a douche, but I think that's cause hes Armenian or something :laugh:
 
#12 ·
So her only professional issue with him is he didn't pay attention to Ronda in the beginning? That's pretty weak...

Could Ronda have been great anywhere? Probably... but she's doing ok where she's at too. To critics him as her couch solely based off something that happened before he even started couching her is stupid.
True, from a purely objective point of view. But this is Rondas moms. Of course she's going to feel like that. As far as she's concerned, her daughter has sun rays gushing out of her arse.

I'm sure the parents of many MMA fighters have unreasonable expectations. We just never get to hear them, as generally the MMA press couldn't give a shit... And thank fook for that.
 
#15 ·
Well it's his character that's being called into question by her mom. And as I stated in terms so coaching ability Rondas boxing was not exactly like water recently in the first exchanges of the last fight, she looked stiff and robotic while she got cracked a few times
 
#16 ·
Well she called his character into question but then didn't give any details... and I'm not defending his coaching ability at all. I'm simply saying the fact that he ignored Ronda in the beginning isn't reason enough to call him a bad coach.

So she either needs to give real details or shut it.
 
#21 ·
In my experience head coaches are rarely the catalyst for major changes in fighters.

The UFC sell us a line about 'Ronda's elite striking' but lets be honest the only real factors in her success are her work ethic, years of elite judo training and the work she does with Rener Gracie her BJJ coach.

I'm not sure Edmond would have altered her fighting ability at all to be honest.
 
#22 ·
Ronda Rousey and TJ Dillashaw began fighting in the UFC around the same time.

Look at how much TJ's striking has improved in comparison to Ronda who looks almost exactly the same as she did when she started fighting in MMA.

That more than anything could show how bad of a coach Edmond is.
 
#24 ·
Wow, shite got real...

Ronda Rousey's mom on coach: 'I would run over him with my car if there wasn't a law against it'

Saying Ronda Rousey's mother pulls no punches would be like saying Rousey is a pretty good MMA fighter. It's a gross understatement.

After a video was released Tuesday of AnnMaria De Mars absolutely hammering Rousey's coach Edmond Tarverdyan, another one dropped Wednesday. And it's even worse.

"I would run over him with my car if there wasn't a law against it," De Mars said.

In the first video, De Mars alluded to the fact that Tarverdyan ignored Rousey when she first came in the gym because she was a woman -- even though Rousey was an Olympic bronze medalist in judo. It remains unclear, though, if there are other reasons why the mother of the biggest star in MMA loathes her daughter's coach.

"Every time I go in his gym, he used to say, 'How are you?'" she said. "And I'd say, 'How the **** do you think I am? I'm in your f*cking gym and I f*cking hate you.' So now he doesn't ask me how I am anymore."

Rousey defends her title against Holly Holm in the main event of UFC 193 on Nov. 14 in Melbourne, Australia. This apparent feud between mom and coach could end up being a serious talking point leading up to that matchup.

"I hate that guy," De Mars said. "He's like the most worthless human being God ever put on this Earth."
http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/10/...ach-i-would-run-over-him-with-my-car-if-there
 
#26 ·
My patented Douchbag-O-Meter ranks them:

1. Edmund
2. Ronda's Mom
3. Ronda

Edmund is a fake tough guy and most likely the worst coach with a name in all of MMA. Just take a look at his record. Ronda I give half a pass because she's just stupid, but her mom is a Doctor of some kind. Doctor's are supposed to be intelligent.
 
#27 ·
Well, she finally did elaborate a little.

“Because he is extremely disrespectful to women. If you read in Ronda’s book, you know when she walked into his gym she had been a Junior World gold medalist, Olympic medalist, World medalist in judo and he (Tarverdyan) didn’t give her the time of day. And he has had that exact same pattern with many women in the gym and I have seen it with my own eyes where they train there and it’s basically a waste of their time. And they’re talked to in a way that just makes my jaw drop.”

“We talked about it before and she said, ‘Oh I got a fight coming up. You only get that pass from me once. Whatever she wants to do in her career, that’s her business, but if you’re in a situation where you’re really causing harm to other people by being used as bait to lure people in there, I think somebody needs to speak up. And all I did was say publicly what people have been whispering for years, but no one had the balls to speak up because Edmond is like that gatekeeper to Ronda.”
I love ronda's Mom. I wish she was the godmother to my girls.
 
#28 ·
I got a lot of respect for AnnaMarie. So of course it was very surprising to hear these statements. She's never spoke negatively about anyone I can remember of. Something big must have been brewing that we don't necessarily know about. Coaches, friends will never get in the way of family. I don't know what her objectives are other than to drive her away from that gym. I always thought they (Edmond/Ronda) were super tight! There's nothing on the surface that shows me he's a grade A douche like Duane.

Very curious to hear Edmund's side. It's a lose lose situation.

On the flip side even though he did win a "lottery ticket" it was Ronda who walked in there and not the other way around.

What are ya gonna do...life is always about drama.
 
#29 ·
I think its pretty much guaranteed Edmond is a terrible coach.

Has anyone noticed Ronda never throws kicks in her fights? The only kick she has ever thrown was in her 2nd fight with Miesha Tate. Edmond tells Ronda she should never, ever, throw kicks because it shows her opponents that she's getting fustrated.

That's the kind of weak advice Ronda's head coach gives her on a regular basis afaik. Even armenians like Karo Parisyan were saying negative things about Edmond's coaching awhile back. They're not proud of the fact Edmond is coaching Ronda. They view it moreso as being a "blonde moment" on Ronda's part for working with such a low quality guy.

I think that Edmond being a boxing coach, he doesn't want his fighters to show anything other than boxing when they fight--so he can take the credit for their wins. He makes up these bogus reasons for them not to kickbox, wrestle or grapple. Telling Ronda not to throw kicks, because he only wants to show off her boxing for his own benefit, that could be a 100% greed move on his part.
 
#30 ·
I thought they (Karo + Edmon) were all part of the same team. Do you have that quote from em. Karo had wicked judo throws!
 
#31 ·
This is unrelated, but I don't like Edmund because he's not tough at all. He acts like Rondas little b***h boy. Like he'd let her play dress up on him and put makeup on him for fun and s**t. Like he's one of her girlfriends giggling with her and s**t. That seems like a lack of dignity to me if I was a fighter and wanted a strong coach I wouldn't want one that would give me a f***ing footrub.

Give me a Ray Longo over that guy any day. On top of that Ronda's boxing sucks. She tries to look like Tyson when she shadow boxes then is just a sloppy brawler in the cage.
 
#34 ·
“Because he is extremely disrespectful to women. If you read in Ronda’s book, you know when she walked into his gym she had been a Junior World gold medalist, Olympic medalist, World medalist in judo and he (Tarverdyan) didn’t give her the time of day. And he has had that exact same pattern with many women in the gym and I have seen it with my own eyes where they train there and it’s basically a waste of their time. And they’re talked to in a way that just makes my jaw drop.”

“We talked about it before and she said, ‘Oh I got a fight coming up. You only get that pass from me once. Whatever she wants to do in her career, that’s her business, but if you’re in a situation where you’re really causing harm to other people by being used as bait to lure people in there, I think somebody needs to speak up. And all I did was say publicly what people have been whispering for years, but no one had the balls to speak up because Edmond is like that gatekeeper to Ronda.”
I'm a little confused. Are y'all missing the point or just ignoring it. It's not about his coaching of ronda. it's about him being a disrespectful asshole to the women he is using ronda to draw to his gym. They come to his gym and pay him because of ronda and they get treated like shit.

I'll say it again. I wish Ronda's mom could be Godmother to my girls.
 
#35 ·
It is about his coaching.

TJ Dillashaw and Honda Housey both began fighting in the UFC near the same time. Look at how much TJ's kickboxing has improved in that time, wheras Ronda's kickboxing looks almost exactly the same now as it did when she started fighting. Ronda punches harder now, that's the only improvement she has made in her stand up in the last 2-4 years. Ok, now look at how far TJ Tillashaw has come with his stand up working with a competent striking coach within the same amount of time.

There's a major difference between the progression of TJ and Ronda people aren't acknowledging that illustrates the difference between a good striking coach and a bad one.
 
#39 ·
From my own experience I can say that my mother has way more often been right than wrong when I thought that her opinion on other people in my life was that of my mother just being my overly caring and overly protective mother.

I guess mothers usually just have a very good sense for what's going on/wrong in their kids surroundings.
 
#40 ·
I think I figured out what Ronda's mom is talking about when she says he's disrespectful to women.

"Because he is extremely disrespectful to women," De Mars told Pro MMA Now's Rhadi Ferguson, elaborating on her previous comments about disliking Tarverdyan. "If you read in Ronda's book, you know when she walked into his gym she had been a junior world gold medalist, Olympic medalist, world medalist in judo and he didn't give her the time of day. And he has had that exact same pattern with many women in the gym and I have seen it with my own eyes where they train there and it's basically a waste of their time. And they're talked to in a way that just makes my jaw drop.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/10/...oach-edmond-tarverdyan-disrespectful-mma-news
Awhile ago Jessamyn Duke and Shayna Baszler were living with Ronda in california and Edmond was coaching them. I think Ronda was covering some of Duke and Baszler's bills and providing them with a place to stay, transportation and so on.

Jessamyn Duke and Shayna Baszler moved from california to Las Vegas and left the team for reasons not stated Baszler is retired afaik and Jessamyn Duke is training at CSW with Josh Barnett, Paulson, etc.

I would guess there's some history between Duke, Baszler and Edmond that that's not public. Ronda's mom feels partially responsible and doesn't want history to repeat itself. No one wants to say anything to Ronda because they're afraid to tell her to her face what a douchebag her head coach is.

Ronda's mom feels she has to take one for the team and get the word out.
 
#42 ·
So, we have an idea more common than not Edmond is not exactly a stellar un-replaceable coach plus... Ronda's mom hates the guts of the guy so, ... how it is even possible Ronda is still training under him? :confused02:

Are they held by contract? Is Ronda having a hard time with her mother about this situation? Did she say anything about this herself? Is this the best environment to anyone's camp?

So many questions, I just can't get this situation.
 
#43 ·
Ronda likes to be in complete control. This is probably a by-product of her childhood and early adulthood where she said she felt she had no control over her life.

Now she has full control but nobody dare tell her whats up. She's in for rude awaking soon.

I'm not a fan of her mother by any means, but I've got a feeling she is right, in this situation.
 
#47 ·
Not gonna throw Edmond under the bus cuz he's taught a student who has gotten far enough. But I NOW see Ronda's mom's pov. Ronda needs to add on another camp...a specialized one. Better game planning, shore up her striking deficiencies. Edmond tells her not to kick, then how will she know how to block one although granted she wasn't looking and was already dazed.

Well, it looks like Aldo and Mighty Mouse are on the radar now.

No one stays on top forever.
 
#48 ·
Please don't compare Aldo and MM to this arrogant fool. Conor matches Ronda in personality, deeds and level of competition more than either of those two REAL champs, as Holm matches Aldo and MM in personality.

Both Rousey and Conor blindly chasing money and fame, shooting their mouths off for beating nobodies and one or two decent ones under lucky circumstances. Aldo and MM have smashed the best in every field of combat, fully prepared.

The humble, focused champs only fall from age, or retire as champ (GSP). People like that are LEGENDS. Eating humble pie is reserved for assholes like Rousey and Conor who don't already have humility and true focus.

Conor is next.
 
#50 ·
This is what she was up against along with a world champion boxer and muay thai. Put everything together and you have the perfect storm.

Now, knowing that Ronda is a world class Olympic athlete. She now needs a world class team behind her. If perennial fighter Ryan Bader's striking can improve so can hers.

Ronda needs to spar with Nick Diaz, Andre Ward, Tyson, and train with a new camp in addition to Edmond since it seems they have a strong relationship. I mean, who's the grappling coach, jitz coach, striking, muay thai (they don't even practice kicking thus they don't know how to block it), MMA coach, etc.

 
#59 ·
Conor is a little nutty yeah but Ronda was saying she's the best fighter in the world. Not best mma fighter, not best female fighter but best fighter period. She had reached unprecedented levels of delusion.

I've never seen Conor injure an untrained reporter, never seem him in deceitful relationships with coworkers, never seen him boasting he's the greatest, that he can beat up heavyweights and prp boxers. Ronda was at an unseen level of delusion.
 
#75 ·
I know it's just a TV show and it's edited yada yada yada, but for me, the season of TUF she did showed exactly the type of person Ronda is.

The difference between Ronda and Conor is that he is a genuine, approachable person and his smack talk is mostly just for show and to sell tickets. Ronda on the other hand does not come across as a nice person in any way shape or form.
 
#60 ·
Don't understand why you guys dismiss the fact that most of the talk is for show, for numbers for cash. Its clever business clearly as both of them are the richest fighters in the game right now or at least the highest paid currently. They have been smart. Ronda could retire now if she wanted and never have to work again!
 
#61 ·
Don't understand why you guys dismiss the fact that most of the talk is for show, for numbers for cash. Its clever business clearly as both of them are the richest fighters in the game right now or at least the highest paid currently. They have been smart. Ronda could retire now if she wanted and never have to work again!
Casuals do generate a lot of money.
 
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