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Gonzaga was extremely nervous

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#1 ·
No, this is not a thread trying to make excuses for Gonzaga's loss to Couture. Couture won because of pure skill, intelligence, and dedication. My BJJ instructor (Gonzaga's original instructor in Brazil) went to be with Napao in Vegas before the fight. According to him, Gonzaga was acting very nervous before his fight, even though he seemed to be calm during the entrance and he should have been brimming with confidence after the Cro Cop knockout. Hopefully in the future Gonzaga can get over this for other title shots.
 
#3 ·
I still think that if the broken nose hadn't happened so early in the fight, it could have gone a completely different direction. I hope that Gonzaga gets a rematch, because people are jumping his bandwagon too quickly and he really is a talented HW.

PS: Randy's good but he's no Fedor.
 
#4 ·
Greatest fighter of all time??? Its not good to smoke crack ya know? Hey I love Randy too and he is amazing no matter what his age. But 16-8 isnt that great, I know most of his losses are in title fights and he hasnt fought any cans. But still he is a HOFer and is great but not the greatest
 
#6 ·
grnlt said:
Greatest fighter of all time??? Its not good to smoke crack ya know? Hey I love Randy too and he is amazing no matter what his age. But 16-8 isnt that great, I know most of his losses are in title fights and he hasnt fought any cans. But still he is a HOFer and is great but not the greatest
any middle aged man that can beet tim sylvia and then gabriel gonzaga, and win titles in 2 weight classes more than once is a hero in my books. 16-8 isnt the best record, but look at who he has fought. none of them have been even close to easy fights, but yet many of them he made look easy.

I may have been going overboard by saying greatest of all time, but i gotta take my hat off to him and i think everyone can agree if hes not the greatest these days hes in the top 2
 
#7 ·
Back on topic...


Yea he seemed really nervous. After he broke his noise I could tell he was desperately trying not to lose his nerve (telling herb dean that he could not see).

I think Gabe will have a much better showing in his next fight. Gabe vs AA anyone?
 
#8 ·
toddums said:
Back on topic...


Yea he seemed really nervous. After he broke his noise I could tell he was desperately trying not to lose his nerve (telling herb dean that he could not see).

I think Gabe will have a much better showing in his next fight. Gabe vs AA anyone?
Gabe vs AA is actually a really good idea imo. Its sort of a win/win for the UFC. AA wins, and they revive a somewhat dormant name and put him in the title picutre. GG wins, and they can begin hyping him up again on the road for a possible HW title fight. It would be the pretty standard striker vs grappler fight, but with AAs decent ground skills and Gonzagas impressive striking and power it could prove to be very entertaining.
 
#11 ·
tabernacle said:
Please. Fedor is a coward for not signing with UFC yet he is fighting Gilbert Yvel. Couture coached on two seasons of TUF. No one has done that before. Couture would knock Fedor out with his wrestling via ground and pound.
Wait what? Fedor wants to sign with an org that will let him do ***** which is more important to him than MMA. Anyone who has fought Mark Hunt, Big Nog, Crocop, Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman, Kazuyuki Fujita, Renato Sobral, Heath Herring and Zulu can't be called a coward. He is just doing what is more important to him.

And please, you are using the fact that Couture coached two seasons of TUF as a reason that he would beat Fedor? You have got to be kidding me. Matt Hughes is going on two seasons, can he beat Fedor? I respect the hell out of Couture, but vs Fedor? he would get smashed.
 
#12 ·
tabernacle said:
Couture coached on two seasons of TUF. No one has done that before.
er.......ok :confused02:

Anyways.... If you think about the difference in matchup between CroCop & Randy they're night and day both in styles and attitude. CroCop would stand and strike arrogantly, showing no respect for Gonzaga, an upset in the making if you ask me. I appretiate CroCops ability, it's the way he thought he would walk through him that was the problem. I think his ankle will remind him the next time he thinks about overlooking an opponent.
 
#15 · (Edited)
murrayjb said:
People just cling to whoever is fresh in their minds...

Fedors 23 fight win streak > Randys 2 fight win streak

sorry...
Randy beating Sylvia and Gonzaga at 43/44 > Fedor beating Lindland at 31. Couture has fought better competition than Fedor lately. I mean since Nogueira, Cro Cop is the only legit top 10 hw he's faced. I'd throw Hunt in but his lack of ground game and experience don't add up, especially after losing to Barnett. Hunt is one of my favorite fighters too.
 
#16 ·
Terry77 said:
Randy beating Sylvia and Gonzaga at 43/44 > Fedor beating Lindland at 31. Couture has fought better competition than Fedor lately. I mean since Nogueira, Cro Cop is the only legit top 10 hw he's faced. I'd throw Hunt in but his lack of ground game and experience don't add up, especially after losing to Barnett. Hunt is one of my favorite fighters too.

This is exactly what i mean by fresh in peoples minds. Yes...LATELY...Fedor has not done so much. But dude, seriously, you gotta look at the overall fighters here, and not just what they have done recently.

Were not Fish with a 3 second attention span, were humans, we have long term memories. Couture beating Sylvia and Gonzaga consecutively is a great feat, i Admit.
But does that really give people the right to just forget what Fedor did in the past? The dude is still young too.

Fedor on a 23 fight win streak (in this win streak contains some of the top fighters in the world...im talking top 5) is more impressive IMO.
 
#18 ·
pxpxpunx said:
any middle aged man that can beet tim sylvia and then gabriel gonzaga, and win titles in 2 weight classes more than once is a hero in my books. 16-8 isnt the best record, but look at who he has fought. none of them have been even close to easy fights, but yet many of them he made look easy.

I may have been going overboard by saying greatest of all time, but i gotta take my hat off to him and i think everyone can agree if hes not the greatest these days hes in the top 2
Yeah, Yeah, but ALL, I repeat ALL of Fedor's fights have looked easy. You can't compare 16-8 to Perfection.
 
#20 · (Edited)
Terry77 said:
Randy beating Sylvia and Gonzaga at 43/44 > Fedor beating Lindland at 31. Couture has fought better competition than Fedor lately. I mean since Nogueira, Cro Cop is the only legit top 10 hw he's faced. I'd throw Hunt in but his lack of ground game and experience don't add up, especially after losing to Barnett. Hunt is one of my favorite fighters too.
I have to agree with this. Couture, at 43-44, takes a fight with Tim Sylvia, beats him, and then demolishes a really good fighter in Gonzaga, who ran through Mirko.

Fedor has fought Mark Hunt & Matt Lindland. Hunt's solid, but Matt Lindland? A MW?

Fedor has done great things, really, really great things, but so has Couture. I am not comparing the 2, and would pick Fedor over Couture, but Randy has definitely been more impressive than Fedor lately.
 
#22 ·
Fedor>all said:
I still think that if the broken nose hadn't happened so early in the fight, it could have gone a completely different direction. I hope that Gonzaga gets a rematch, because people are jumping his bandwagon too quickly and he really is a talented HW.

PS: Randy's good but he's no Fedor.

I'm a huge Randy fan and I wish Gonzaga's nose didn't break the way it did. I'm sure if it hadn't happen we would have seen a much more competitive fight. I still liked the fight though.
 
#24 ·
Terry77 said:
There have been like 200 threads that, in some detail, since ufc 74 have discussed Fedor vs Couture. I mean can the universe handle these two actually fighting?
lmao, probably not. Randy is the man and I cant wait for his next title defence.

On the Subject Gabe did look nervous before the fight...I would too its his first big fight and he will learn alot from this and hopefull come back strong. I hate to see someone just fall off the map...dout this will happen Gonzaga is still a beast in my eyes..and has many good matchups to come. But Couture would have his # everytime imo.
 
#25 ·
tabernacle said:
Please. Fedor is a coward for not signing with UFC yet he is fighting Gilbert Yvel. Couture coached on two seasons of TUF. No one has done that before. Couture would knock Fedor out with his wrestling via ground and pound.
Fedor isn't a coward. UFC won't agree to his terms so hes not taking them.
Why do people often say, Fedor isn't the best until he fights the ufc champ. Why don't people ever say, how do we know ufc champ is the best he hasn't been tested against the pride champ?
 
#26 ·
kds13 said:
Yeah, Yeah, but ALL, I repeat ALL of Fedor's fights have looked easy. You can't compare 16-8 to Perfection.
You're cool with me for having Matt Serra in your avi, but c'mon, man. All of Fedor's fights looked easy? His PRIDE debut didn't look easy. He couldn't finish Schilt. If he had, I'd give you the benefit of the doubt.

That being said though, I won't take anything from Fedor. He's very, very good. I just don't like him staying away from UFC. No *****? Give me a break. I gurantee his UFC paycheck would have him lining happily at home, maybe coaching some new ***** guys. Suck it up.
 
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