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post #21 of 23 (permalink) Old 09-01-2007, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by G-S-P
Again, that's not the point. Vera was up to face Sylvia for the title, regardless of your opinions on the man. Hey, I was against Gonzaga getting the title shot, but what can you do?
It has everything to do with it. Vera WAS up to face Sylvia when the HW division was piss poor, and I agreed with it at the time.

And as it goes for Gonzaga, who would you have had face Couture??? pretty sure the UFC was bettin that CroCop was gonna win, settin up Couture Vs CroCop, Gonzaga won so therefore....

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How so? The guy may not have established himself thus far, which I completely understand, but we're talking about an excellent stand up fighter, along with top notch ground work to add on to that. To put the guy down like that is well, ridiculous.
I didnt put him down im stating facts. Nog and CroCop.....top 5, Vera not even top 10. Im just sayin he needs to prove himself amongst some of these top 10, and I'll say it again if he beats Sylvia I will say he is a contender in the division.
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post #22 of 23 (permalink) Old 09-01-2007, 10:52 PM
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I'd like to see AA and Nog fight for #1 very much.

I think it's a bad matchup for AA, but if he means to be #1 again he has to fight these fights. I think it's a solid test for Nog too against a guy he hasn't fought before.

CC and Nog? Give me something new for a change instead of pride guy vs pride guy, but if they must fight, ill still watch

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Originally Posted by G-S-P
Hey, I understand that he hasnít proven himself yet, point is heís a very talented fighter, and just because he hasnít beaten any of the big names yet, doesnít mean he should be out of the opportunity of challenging the HC right away. Telligman was given a HC bout with Sylvia awhile back, when he had done absolutely nothing to earn that spot. One could argue that the division wasnít deep then, and there were no other serious contenders/threats, but we all know thatís a load of BS. Thereís always someone that can challenge for the title, and whether youíre a fan of the guy or not, Brandon Vera was given that opportunity. Just so happens that UFC signed the bigger name talent, guys like Nog, Cro Cop, and possibly Fedor. Now Veraís chances of getting his title bout have decreased significantly, but as I said in my very first post, heís a possibility along with Cro Cop and Nog (noting that all three win their upcoming bouts).
Well seems we have come to an agreement. Im not gonna write off Vera as a contender in the HW division that would be just silly.

However, I still believe that Vera will be behind CroCop and Nog (assumin Nog and CC win there next fights) in the title chase. The Vera Vs Sylvia fight is gonna be a huge match for Vera's career, we shall see how he does.

Well done with your argument G-S-P, I thought you were a little off with ya first post, but you have proved your knowledge!
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