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09-04-2007, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Brydon
Pound for pound shouldnt have anything to do with a fighters weight, its there skill set in relation to other peoples, hence the name pound for pound. Its a bit silly to say fedor cant be number 1 because he's so big. Also I dont think its based solely on record at all otherwise roger huerta would be at number 1 lightweight and Rich Franklin would be above anderson silva at middleweight.
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No offense bro but Pound for Pound basically means the most talented fighter if you were to make size equal. I think GSP would beat Fedor if they were the same size and I'm not even a big GSP fan but he would be much faster than Fedor if their size was even. |
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09-04-2007, 05:41 PM
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Kid Yamamoto is the best P4P fighter because he is the smallest guy who has beaten the most guys in above weight classes and in devastating fashion usually.
The smaller you are, the more people you beat in above weight classes, the higher you are ranked P4P. Fedor should not be considered #1 P4P in the world because he is too big.
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09-04-2007, 05:43 PM
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Only problem with Kid is he hasn't fought many top fighters I think he and BJ based on talent and Size are 1 and 2 but until they beat top contenders they are somewhere between 3-6
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09-04-2007, 05:45 PM
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No offense bro but Pound for Pound basically means the most talented fighter if you were to make size equal. I think GSP would beat Fedor if they were the same size and I'm not even a big GSP fan but he would be much faster than Fedor if their size was even.
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If their size was even, how do you know GSP would be faster? Or better? That's nearly impossible to tell. |
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09-04-2007, 05:48 PM
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Only problem with Kid is he hasn't fought many top fighters I think he and BJ based on talent and Size are 1 and 2 but until they beat top contenders they are somewhere between 3-6
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I know he hasn't beaten any top 5 guys but the fact that he walks around at 141 pounds and fights guys who walk around at 160+ and knocks their asses out, nobody else can say that. He may not have faught top 5 guys but he has faught some damn good competition...Caol Uno, Genki Sudo, Josh Thompson...and some others. Who else can say that? I think Kid is the smallest guy to have the most success in higher weight classes. |
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09-04-2007, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by WouldLuv2FightU
If their size was even, how do you know GSP would be faster? Or better? That's nearly impossible to tell.
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It is the way P4P is who has the most talent divided by Pounds (way to literal obviously). So IMO GSP has more talent and Speed per pound than Fedor. |
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09-04-2007, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by WouldLuv2FightU
I know he hasn't beaten any top 5 guys but the fact that he walks around at 141 pounds and fights guys who walk around at 160+ and knocks their asses out, nobody else can say that. He may not have faught top 5 guys but he has faught some damn good competition...Caol Uno, Genki Sudo, Josh Thompson...and some others. Who else can say that? I think Kid is the smallest guy to have the most success in higher weight classes.
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Very True and if he beats one top 5 FW I put him #1 right away just as if BJ beats 1 top 10 LW I put him either #1 or #2 depending on Kid. |
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09-04-2007, 11:09 PM
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i`ll agree with Fedor not being best pound for pound, fact is the guy is soft, he relies on his size a lot, if you were to shrink him down while keeping his muscle mass the same proportion in a middle or welterweight bout.. im not sure he`d do well.
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09-04-2007, 11:18 PM
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so Pound for pound has more to do with your physical appearance rather then raw ability? Plus hasnt Fedor beat many guys that are heavier then him?
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09-04-2007, 11:26 PM
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One thing I'd like to point out on the GSP & Fedor comparison.
GSP is a big welter weight, he cuts weight to fight in that division.
Fedor fights at his natural weight class.
Edit: This is coming from a GSP fan.
They definately belong in the best p4p fighters.
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Is pound for pound based soley on record?
