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Old 09-09-2007, 01:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Despite the fact that Dana has publicly talked about the scoring systems faults, nothing has been done about it. Two of the fights tonight would have been different with a different scoring sytem.

Hamill did more damge in the fight but lost by rounds (like it or not) and that sucks. If they used a scoring sytem like Pride's or even developed a completely new scoring system (Such as awarding the winner 20 pts to allow for more variation to the looser's score) Hamill would have won.

Also, despite clearly loosing by points, I feel Hendo did more overall damage. He was more active on the bottom, and more dominant on the top. I also feel he landed the cleaner shots in the fight. If they were using a different scoring system, he could easily be the New Champion.

Whatever you think, lets keep it civil.
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Old 09-09-2007, 02:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Despite the fact that Dana has publicly talked about the scoring systems faults, nothing has been done about it. Two of the fights tonight would have been different with a different scoring sytem.

Hamill did more damge in the fight but lost by rounds (like it or not) and that sucks. If they used a scoring sytem like Pride's or even developed a completely new scoring system (Such as awarding the winner 20 pts to allow for more variation to the looser's score) Hamill would have won.

Also, despite clearly loosing by points, I feel Hendo did more overall damage. He was more active on the bottom, and more dominant on the top. I also feel he landed the cleaner shots in the fight. If they were using a different scoring system, he could easily be the New Champion.

Whatever you think, lets keep it civil.
sorrry, but you didnt watch the fight. no need to try to rack up some eBucks. hamill won every round of that fight, and 2 of them he won DECISIVELY. the judges were screwed with before that fight happened, most belive that.

and how exactly did hendo beat rampage? his cheek had a mouse on it and he did way less damage to rampage than rampage did to him. not only that, but rampage OUTWRESTLED hendo. on the feet, rampage took every single shot hendo could throw at him and was no rocked for a single fraction of a second, while hendo was loosing his balance, falling, gassing, and taking much more damage. rampage blew through hendos supposed killer right hand and left hook and exposed it as a mediocre stand-up game.
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Old 09-09-2007, 02:22 AM   #3 (permalink)
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sorrry, but you didnt watch the fight. no need to try to rack up some eBucks. hamill won every round of that fight, and 2 of them he won DECISIVELY. the judges were screwed with before that fight happened, most belive that.

and how exactly did hendo beat rampage? his cheek had a mouse on it and he did way less damage to rampage than rampage did to him. not only that, but rampage OUTWRESTLED hendo. on the feet, rampage took every single shot hendo could throw at him and was no rocked for a single fraction of a second, while hendo was loosing his balance, falling, gassing, and taking much more damage. rampage blew through hendos supposed killer right hand and left hook and exposed it as a mediocre stand-up game.
Um... thanx for the post? You didn't even adress the topic, Should there be a new scoring system and if so what should it be. Dana white has talked about a new system for a while. I dind't say hendo won, he lost (imo 3 rounds to 2) it was pretty clear. I said he did more damage, and won the rounds he did win more decisevly.

He was way more active from the bottom, rampage just kinda laid there. He did hit rampage with some good shots, they didn't hurt him but they landed. Rampage won by taking Hendo down and doing just barely enough to win. Either way, IDC. Just talk about scoring.
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Old 09-09-2007, 03:28 AM   #4 (permalink)
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The scoring system wouldnt be as bad if judges would actually award a round 10-8 which they are allowed to do but something I have yet to see. A close round should be 10-9 but when its completely obvious one person ruled the whole round they should get a 10-8 round which they dont do.
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i wish they would go back to the old round system. Fighters would fight until one guy won. That was nice, no judges decisions, no oh shit I am glad my block got rocked when the bell wrong to save me.
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Old 09-09-2007, 03:35 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I think Matt Hammil won the fight no matter what. He should of gotten a unanimous decision victory but either way he came out on top with points. he had 86 points while Bisping had 85. 29-28, 29-28,30-27.
Basically, I think rather just whoever gets most judges on their side. They should go by who gets the most points.
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i wish they would go back to the old round system. Fighters would fight until one guy won. That was nice, no judges decisions, no oh shit I am glad my block got rocked when the bell wrong to save me.
I agree. In the Hendo/Rampage fight a couple of the rounds looked like they were really hotting up. . . and then the bell rang. Notably the last when Rampage was really sticking it to Hendo.

I did like Pride's way of scoring a fight though. And the general structure, first round being 10 minutes was a really good idea.

If points is how it's going to stay I think more weighting or points (out of 15 or 20) should be awarded for the last round. It is pretty lame in my opinion if one fighter just about wins 4 rounds 10 - 9 and then the other totally dominates in the last round and it's obvious they are gonna KO or TKO them, but then the bell rings. :<

Actually saying this I think title fights should just go on untill someone actually wins. Points decision for title fights are a bit meh for me. They didn't really win in my eyes.
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but rampage OUTWRESTLED hendo. on the feet, rampage took every single shot hendo could throw at him and was no rocked for a single fraction of a second, while hendo was loosing his balance, falling, gassing, and taking much more damage. rampage blew through hendos supposed killer right hand and left hook and exposed it as a mediocre stand-up game.
i disagree

depends which rounds your talking about, hendo had him the first two, he had him at the end of the last as well.

That was a close fight, personally i turned over to my buddy and said that i wouldnt be able to call that but due to the fact that rampage is the current champ, hendo would have had to make a little more impact in the last in order to have won.
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i wish they would go back to the old round system. Fighters would fight until one guy won. That was nice, no judges decisions, no oh shit I am glad my block got rocked when the bell wrong to save me.
I agree. One 20 minute round, if neither fighter is submitted, ko'd or tko'd by the end give it to whoever was trying to finish the fight. The goal should be to beat up the other guy not to win points.

But I'd also like head-butts back too, and thats never going to happen either.
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i disagree

depends which rounds your talking about, hendo had him the first two, he had him at the end of the last as well.
Rampage was about to put Hendo out at the end of the last round... Hendo got knocked down and was sitting against the fence w/ Rampage dropping bombs
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