First UFC experience - is it rigged? - Page 2 - MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos
UFC The Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) is a U.S.-based mixed martial arts organization, recognized as the largest MMA promotion in the world. The UFC is headquartered in Las Vegas, Nevada and is owned and operated by Zuffa, LLC. This promotion is responsible for solidifying the sport's postion in the history-books. UFC is currently undergoing a remarkable surge in popularity, along with greater mainstream media coverage. UFC programming can now be seen on FOX, FX, and FUEL TV in the United States, as well as in 35 other countries worldwide.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #11 of 33 (permalink) Old 09-09-2007, 12:05 PM
MMA Fanatic
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 70
 
Go see if you can get 74 on DVD or video from someone.Thats a much better event.Don't hold the bad vibes from 75 has something that happens on the regular.
jeepersd is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #12 of 33 (permalink) Old 09-09-2007, 12:05 PM
Middleweight
 
Shamrock-Ortiz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Wales
Posts: 2,963
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yeti-TSDWBJJ
The 10-point-must system messes everything up.
Explain to me how Bisping winning was anything to do with the 10 point-must system.. It was just bad judging, nothing to do with the system. If those judges were good judges it would of been 30-27 unanimous for Hamill. The system is fine.
Shamrock-Ortiz is offline  
post #13 of 33 (permalink) Old 09-09-2007, 12:06 PM Thread Starter
MMA Fanatic
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 65
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moezilla
Many MMA fans will defend the UFC and tell you it's not rigged, my recommendation to you is to observe any other free matches on Spike at your own discretion and make your own mind up on that. Remember, UFC is a business and is being run as one. The UFC wants to break into the UK, so Bisping losing wouldn't fare well for them.
Wow good point! So I guess it's quite plausible that the UFC had a vested interest in Bisping.
snoozer is offline  
post #14 of 33 (permalink) Old 09-09-2007, 12:07 PM
Middleweight
 
hollando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Mississauga
Posts: 2,822
             
rigged no

but those judges man

were either not part of the athletic gaming commision....or were goin in the direction of boxing

The most solid advice I can give to anyone who fights BJ Penn is...do not motivate the guy. Lets face it, BJ although talented, is naturally lazy. Your job is to NOT convince him to step on that treadmill.
hollando is offline  
post #15 of 33 (permalink) Old 09-09-2007, 12:17 PM
Face the Pain
 
Aaronyman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Southwestern Ontario
Posts: 7,021
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shamrock-Ortiz
Explain to me how Bisping winning was anything to do with the 10 point-must system.. It was just bad judging, nothing to do with the system. If those judges were good judges it would of been 30-27 unanimous for Hamill. The system is fine.
i would say the way it's scored is wrong. I firmly believe that when you have a round like ramapage/henderson round 2...you can't leave it to judges, especially, when alot of people think have an agenda to follow, to pick a winner. that round was toooo close. it should have been awarded 9 - 9.
Aaronyman is offline  
post #16 of 33 (permalink) Old 09-09-2007, 12:19 PM
Middleweight
 
hollando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Mississauga
Posts: 2,822
             
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaronyman
i would say the way it's scored is wrong. I firmly believe that when you have a round like ramapage/henderson round 2...you can't leave it to judges, especially, when alot of people think have an agenda to follow, to pick a winner. that round was toooo close. it should have been awarded 9 - 9.
i concur on the round two thoughts

The most solid advice I can give to anyone who fights BJ Penn is...do not motivate the guy. Lets face it, BJ although talented, is naturally lazy. Your job is to NOT convince him to step on that treadmill.
hollando is offline  
post #17 of 33 (permalink) Old 09-09-2007, 12:23 PM
MMA Fanatic
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 32
 
WTF!?! I been watching UFC from the begining, and while there some bad or questionable calls in the past for some fights, the Hamill decision was ABSOLUTELY FIXED! Here is why...

1. They want the Euro Market bad enough to give Bisping to make more revenue overseas.

2. 99% of all the MMA viewers are saying the same thing.

3. It was obvious to everyone who won that fight. The proof was on Spike TV!

That being said, it was beyond a bad or unpopular call, that was handed to Bisping and that means it was fixed!
defcon365 is offline  
post #18 of 33 (permalink) Old 09-09-2007, 01:08 PM
MMA Fanatic
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 18
 
Cool

Quote:
Originally Posted by snoozer
Thanks guys. Due to your enthusiasm, I will give UFC another try.

I am happy to hear that I wasn't dreaming when I watched Hamill kick Bisping's ass. That decision still concerns me though. I mean either they hired very bad judges or something was fixed in that fight.
I think the fight was much closer than a lot of people think. I have been watching MMA for over 7 years and know a lot about the sport and how the judges score. Matt Hamil won the first round easily all of the judges scored it that way but round two and three it could have went either way Hamil scored some take downs but did nothing once down there and Bisping got right back up(judges eye neutral outcome takedown=2 pts escape = 2 pts) on the other hand Bisbing landed many more shots on his feet and gave very good angles. Additionaly he threw punches in combos which also scores points opposed to Hamil throwing in on or two at a time. Combine all of that and the fact that it was in Bisbings home and you have a fight that could have went either way in the judges mind, and it did resulting in a split decision. IMO Matt Hamil should have found a way to finish he had Bisbing broke and as a former wrestler and AM fighter he should have seen that and finsihed him when he was on the ground, but he didnt have the gas left in his tank to do it. Matt Hamil is a good fighter and an inspiration to a lot of people myself included but he is still a B level fighter and has a lot of work to do. He needs to get out of NY and go back to Big Bear with Tito where he can learn to improve on his weaknesses GnP and conditioning.
egyptking51 is offline  
post #19 of 33 (permalink) Old 09-09-2007, 01:13 PM
Amatuer
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 133
 
Even Bisping's fans were disapointed, everyone though that Hamill won.
keylocke is offline  
post #20 of 33 (permalink) Old 09-09-2007, 01:45 PM
Dreamer
 
toddums's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Seattle
Posts: 870
                     
Fixed...maybe not...completely biased most definately YES



Founding Rockateer of the Wilson Gouveia Rocketship!

Sig by Diesel
toddums is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome