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View Poll Results: who juices?

Tito Ortiz juices 23 34.85%
Tito Ortiz doesnt' juice 25 37.88%
Houstan Alexander juices 31 46.97%
Houstan Alexander doesn't juice 19 28.79%
Rampage juices 11 16.67%
Rampage doesnt juice 34 51.52%
some one else juices (explain) 15 22.73%
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Old 09-09-2007, 08:19 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Any fighter "might". Unless you're following them around all the time there is really no way to know. If Randy did, I think it was a long time ago cause he's had that big head for as long as I've seen him doing MMA.
I can't see him doing that now. He is a nature freak and has a very careful diet, he wouldn't put something like that into his body. He's also very mild mannered, not at all like roid ragers. And lastly I feel he has too much integrity.
Never said I wasn't just speculating. But to say someone isn't doing them because of integrity seems silly. Randy is a nice guy but I find it hard to believe any of us really know him. My question is: why doesn't he talk about the recent positive testings and his take on them? Other fighters have weighed in, but he hasn't said anything as far as I know.
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Old 09-09-2007, 08:23 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I actually disagree, i think very few fighters are on roids, and very few went on used them. lets be real here, not everyone who is jacked is on roids. some people just want to say that since they arent that big themselves. but these guys are amazing atheltes and have been training for the longest time. Randy is not on roids. look at him, his muscles aren't even unnaturally full. you can tell when the muscles are alot more rounded and unnatural looking and i look at all th weigh in photos and randy looked normal. Ken Shamrock though definently went on something. People dont neccesairly have to go on roids though to get big. With a solid diet, and good supplements you can get quite big. you could go on Test boosters and what not, and then of course go to the "dark side" and steroids. i think the majority of the fighters are clean, and have been their whole life, but of coursse im sure there is a handful that aren't clean at all.

but just because someone is jacked, doesnt mean they are on roids, and thats what a few of you are saying and its not true.

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I actually disagree, i think very few fighters are on roids, and very few went on used them. lets be real here, not everyone who is jacked is on roids. some people just want to say that since they arent that big themselves. but these guys are amazing atheltes and have been training for the longest time. Randy is not on roids. look at him, his muscles aren't even unnaturally full. you can tell when the muscles are alot more rounded and unnatural looking and i look at all th weigh in photos and randy looked normal. Ken Shamrock though definently went on something. People dont neccesairly have to go on roids though to get big. With a solid diet, and good supplements you can get quite big. you could go on Test boosters and what not, and then of course go to the "dark side" and steroids. i think the majority of the fighters are clean, and have been their whole life, but of coursse im sure there is a handful that aren't clean at all.

but just because someone is jacked, doesnt mean they are on roids, and thats what a few of you are saying and its not true.

jsut my two cents.
They're not called performance enhancers for nothing. Roids work, plain and simple. You're right that not all buff dudes are doing roids. Some people are naturally gifted athletes. But when there's something out there that can bring up an important aspect of your physical abilities, you're going to be tempted to use it, to get that edge.
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Not everyone is going to be tempted to take roids just too enhance performance. Many people and athletes do place importance in their health and some people just have the pride not too cheat.

Oh yeah- Tim Sylvia was taking roids. We all know what a great physique and big head he has...
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Not everyone is going to be tempted to take roids just too enhance performance. Many people and athletes do place importance in their health and some people just have the pride not too cheat.

Oh yeah- Tim Sylvia was taking roids. We all know what a great physique and big head he has...
Now that's just being naive. Better performance means better pay. You're assuming the best of people and that's something hard to do when money is involved.
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lol @ ppl who think Tito juices... the guys fought more then ANYBODY else in UFC history & hes NEVER tested positive ... cmon now
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Now:
Sherk
Randy
Hughes
Alexander
GSP
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countless others

Used to, but I don't think they do anymore:
Tito
Ken
Maybe Big Tim

I also think a factor in some of the Pride guys lack luster performances is because they don't know how to cycle because they didn't have to in Pride. Looking back at that post I better prepare for the flamage.
Honestly, can you back up anything you said in that post? Besides Sherk and Tim?
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Just look at Tito's head and jaw structure in his pre fight interview at UFC 12 back in 1997 and compare it to now. Yes, he has used steroids/HGH. Sorry but your jaw and head don't experience a massive growth spurt on their own.
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Honestly, can you back up anything you said in that post? Besides Sherk and Tim?
Like I said, the title of this thread is 'who do you think,' aren't you the one who talks shit on peoples reading comprehension??

EDIT: Can you honestly prove any of those people aren't on roids??? Well I can't prove that they are on roids, but I can certainly speculate.
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Like I said, the title of this thread is 'who do you think,' aren't you the one who talks shit on peoples reading comprehension??

EDIT: Can you honestly prove any of those people aren't on roids??? Well I can't prove that they are on roids, but I can certainly speculate.
Regardless of the thread title, you never said you thought they might, you said they were.

Can I prove any are not? Well, they come up clean in drug tests, what more do you want? Innocent until proven.
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