here's what mmaweekly.com has for top 10.
#1 Heavyweight Fighter in the World: Fedor Emelianenko
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
3. Mirko Cro Cop
4. Josh Barnett
5. Randy Couture
6. Gabriel Gonzaga
7. Tim Sylvia
8. Andrei Arlovski
9. Fabricio Werdum
10. Aleksander Emelianenko
Now not only till lately that this has more ufc fighters (it used to be dominated by pride fighers).
my question is WHY.. why is the top 4 (and 6/10) all from pride?. Now before all you fedor/nogueira/crocop nuthuggers jump all over me, read on and let me state my case for debate. (for the record, i love fedor and crocop, but with crocop's recent loss, i start to question the validity of pride fighter's skill level. so i thought i'd start a good debate on this thread)
#1 Fedor - who did he beat to get #1?
Nogueira - nogueira dominated pride for 2 years or so? beating people that got kicked out of ufc the likes of kevin randleman and crocop
Crocop - got DOMINATED twice in a row by two "unknown" ufc fighters
Fujita - got owned by monson.
Randleman - got destroyed in ufc by everyone
who did fedor beat that did well in the ufc?
#2 Nogueira - why is he #2?
Is it because he dominated pride for like 2 years? then why is wanderlei silva not #1 then?
nogueira beat several mma stars such as...
Crocop - which got dominated twice in a row in ufc
hearring - which looked like a fool on his first ufc fight (until he started fighting complete n00bs in the non-aired bouts). and hearing actually almost beat nogueira on their ufc fight.
who did nogueira beat that did well in the ufc?
#3 Crocop - i love this guy, but WHY is he #3?
before his fights in the ufc, who did he beat in the heavyweight that was a contender in the ufc? and when he finally moved to the ufc for "better challenges" he got destroyed twice by 2 no-names.
#4 - Barnett - seriously, wtf is this guy doing here?
crocop destroyed him like 3x? and we all know what the ufc heavyweights did to crocop. i'm a little biased here, i dont like this guy, he's an ugly fighter. i consider him the tim silvia of pride.
all i'm wondering about, isn't the top 10 heavy weight a little skewed towards pride? why are pride heavy weights considered so much better than the ufc? a few of the heavyweights of pride are ufc rejects (barnett/randleman). and ALL OF THEM that came over so far are getting destroyed by virtually unknown fighters.
arlovski got like a 10 winning streak i believe. tim silvia, as much as we hate him, he's really not bad (why people like barnett are ranked over him, i'll never get). monsoon got his own little winning streak as well.
i mean if i was fedor, i'd be starting to question myself. one of his 2 most notable win is against crocop. and crocop is the highlight reel knockout of gonzaga. and Noguiera almost lost his first fight.
please don't turn this thread into a flame war. i want solid, substantial counter argument on why you think pride fighters are heavily favored on rankings. also, i'm not the mma expert and i didnt really reasearch any of this, just going by what i know, so you can point out any errors i have but do it in a constructive manner.
#1 Heavyweight Fighter in the World: Fedor Emelianenko
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
3. Mirko Cro Cop
4. Josh Barnett
5. Randy Couture
6. Gabriel Gonzaga
7. Tim Sylvia
8. Andrei Arlovski
9. Fabricio Werdum
10. Aleksander Emelianenko
Now not only till lately that this has more ufc fighters (it used to be dominated by pride fighers).
my question is WHY.. why is the top 4 (and 6/10) all from pride?. Now before all you fedor/nogueira/crocop nuthuggers jump all over me, read on and let me state my case for debate. (for the record, i love fedor and crocop, but with crocop's recent loss, i start to question the validity of pride fighter's skill level. so i thought i'd start a good debate on this thread)
#1 Fedor - who did he beat to get #1?
Nogueira - nogueira dominated pride for 2 years or so? beating people that got kicked out of ufc the likes of kevin randleman and crocop
Crocop - got DOMINATED twice in a row by two "unknown" ufc fighters
Fujita - got owned by monson.
Randleman - got destroyed in ufc by everyone
who did fedor beat that did well in the ufc?
#2 Nogueira - why is he #2?
Is it because he dominated pride for like 2 years? then why is wanderlei silva not #1 then?
nogueira beat several mma stars such as...
Crocop - which got dominated twice in a row in ufc
hearring - which looked like a fool on his first ufc fight (until he started fighting complete n00bs in the non-aired bouts). and hearing actually almost beat nogueira on their ufc fight.
who did nogueira beat that did well in the ufc?
#3 Crocop - i love this guy, but WHY is he #3?
before his fights in the ufc, who did he beat in the heavyweight that was a contender in the ufc? and when he finally moved to the ufc for "better challenges" he got destroyed twice by 2 no-names.
#4 - Barnett - seriously, wtf is this guy doing here?
crocop destroyed him like 3x? and we all know what the ufc heavyweights did to crocop. i'm a little biased here, i dont like this guy, he's an ugly fighter. i consider him the tim silvia of pride.
all i'm wondering about, isn't the top 10 heavy weight a little skewed towards pride? why are pride heavy weights considered so much better than the ufc? a few of the heavyweights of pride are ufc rejects (barnett/randleman). and ALL OF THEM that came over so far are getting destroyed by virtually unknown fighters.
arlovski got like a 10 winning streak i believe. tim silvia, as much as we hate him, he's really not bad (why people like barnett are ranked over him, i'll never get). monsoon got his own little winning streak as well.
i mean if i was fedor, i'd be starting to question myself. one of his 2 most notable win is against crocop. and crocop is the highlight reel knockout of gonzaga. and Noguiera almost lost his first fight.
please don't turn this thread into a flame war. i want solid, substantial counter argument on why you think pride fighters are heavily favored on rankings. also, i'm not the mma expert and i didnt really reasearch any of this, just going by what i know, so you can point out any errors i have but do it in a constructive manner.