Originally Posted by Brydon
The reasons im not considering Rampage a pride fighter are as follows.
okay lets see how these stand up.
1. He was the first ex Pride guy to come over to the UFC and has 3 fights and is now the UFC champ.
Anderson Silva, Heath Herring anyone? Silva was fighting for Cage Rage, and Herring for K-1 and yet like Ramp they were promoted as Pride fighters cuz that is where they built up their fan base.
2. He was not under Pride contract at the time, infact he hadnt fought in Pride for a while and had several fights with another organisation. THE UFC BOUGHT RAMPAGES CONTRACT FROM ANOTHER ORGANISATION, NOT PRIDE.
It was the WFA and had like one fight there against Lindland. Again he had most of his fights and is known for his time in Pride.
3. When im refering to pride nuthugging im not reffering to all pride fighters. Im reffering to the top Pride guys who are having their first fight in the UFC e.g. Hendo and Shogun.
Well one could argue that heath herring was a top Pride guy and hendo has fought in the UFC before, granted its been a long time, he still did. I will give you Shogun.
Did anyone consider Quintin a pride fighter when he got dropped from Pride and started fighting in a smaller organisation in the US? I doubt it.
The real question is did anyone care? Nope, it wasn't till he got signed to UFC anyone cared about him.
I understand and see your logic but think its flawed. As for Hendo how many fights did he have at 205 vs. 185? I am just curious.
Seriosly he needs to ring up Rich Franklin and ask if he(Griffin) can give a few pointers about defending against the clinch.
That would imply Franklin didn't destoryed in the clinch by a former chute boxe guy, or were you joking, I can really tell.