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post #11 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-16-2007, 08:23 PM
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If page can actually stick to his game plan and wrestle Shogun and Wandy to the ground I think thats where his best chance is. I know they have great BJJ but the guy has proven hes got some skills at controlling someone when hes on top. The only problem I see is he still seems to get lost in that stand up and slug mentality. He got caught hard by Hendo in either the 4th or 5th round I think because of it when he could have easily taken him down at that point because Dan was so gassed. Either way I really cant wait to see who he fights next. LHW is pretty much guaranteed sick title fights for the next year at least.

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If page can actually stick to his game plan and wrestle Shogun and Wandy to the ground I think thats where his best chance is. I know they have great BJJ but the guy has proven hes got some skills at controlling someone when hes on top. The only problem I see is he still seems to get lost in that stand up and slug mentality. He got caught hard by Hendo in either the 4th or 5th round I think because of it when he could have easily taken him down at that point because Dan was so gassed. Either way I really cant wait to see who he fights next. LHW is pretty much guaranteed sick title fights for the next year at least.
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i must admit rampages performance now in the octagon have really surprised as of lately. After the string of losses in pride i would have never of thought rampage to be so good and dominating. If he would win the rematch with wandy, hot damn i would love to see that.
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I have been saying for a while now that Rampage is a different fighter. He is definitely a force right now, and IMO should be ranked #1 LHW because of recent performances and the fact that he is a triple belt holder(technically).
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I suppose he could beat Wanderlei or Shogun but I'd still bet on them over Rampage.
I'm with GMW here. I mean, I give Rampage a shot against both guys, especially Wandy (Since Wandy's chin has been taking some abuse), but I'd still pick both Wandy & Shogun over the guy. I think both guys are Rampage's kryptonite, much like Wanderlei was Sakuraba's, Ken was Bas', Fedor was Nog's, and Chuck was Tito's.

Shogun, man, he just ran through Rampage like he was nothing, and is primarily a grappler, so of course, I'd still pick him over Rampage.

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Just watched his fight with Wanderlei. Man he got the crap kicked out of him. I loved when Silva had him in that clinch and gave Rampage a big smile as he was destroying him.
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I would argue and have in the past that if like some of you said Rampage took Shogun down he would be in a worse spot than anywhere else. Shogun has some of the best sweeps in MMA and his submissions are severly underrated. Rampage has a huge tendancy on the ground to rush in and get caught and he usually just powers out of the submissions but Shogun has some real strong legs and I think on the ground Shogun dominates Rampage. Rampage wins this fight boxing. Shogun takes it if it goes to the ground or to the clinch.
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I've had a man-crush on Rampage ever since I saw a tape of him pick up Chuck Liddell and slam him on the mat so hard Liddell's team threw in the towel immediately. That, and that gigantic chain he wears around his neck is just straight up money. He's got a great sense of humor too.
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Rampage is a much different beast now and I think a lot of the Pride guys, like Hendo, will be in for a shock when they go in and face a Rampage with a coach and a plan. That coach of his has taken Rampage and taught him so many things that are just helping to finish his game and refining his gameplan. I think Rampage will peak in 2-3 years, hold it for another year or so, and then start his downward trend. During that time I don't see anyone who can dominate him.
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Rampage is a much different beast now and I think a lot of the Pride guys, like Hendo, will be in for a shock when they go in and face a Rampage with a coach and a plan. That coach of his has taken Rampage and taught him so many things that are just helping to finish his game and refining his gameplan. I think Rampage will peak in 2-3 years, hold it for another year or so, and then start his downward trend. During that time I don't see anyone who can dominate him.
You come across as sounding like Hendo wasnt pretty much a mid/top level fighter just like Rampage was when they were both over in Pride. In all honesty I havnt seen him change much. He looks like pretty much the same fighter that Wandy and Shogun put a monkey stomp on. I do think he had oppurtunities in both Silva fights to win but like I said earlier he loses his head and decides to sit in the pocket and trade with crazy mofo's from brazil who look like if they wernt fighting they would be killing cats for a living.

I do think he looks, fresher, at least. He looks like hes the same confident Page as he was after ******* up Randleman, bustamante and Liddel. To me the jury is still out, I have alot of respect for the cat but it takes alot to dominate a group of fighters like the UFC has in the LHW division these days. If he gets past Shogun, Wandy maybe again and whoever else is up to the challenge in the next couple fights then Ill jump on the Rampage bandwagon no problem.

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