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post #1 of 53 (permalink) Old 09-17-2007, 06:39 PM Thread Starter
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Post did any one else read this article (about fedor) by John Falcetta

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The big news in Mixed Martial Arts is that Dallas Mavericks billionaire owner Mark Cuban—with the help of Dallas native and MMA great Guy Mezger—is now starting a new MMA promotion.

This is great news for MMA fans everywhere because we all know Cuban will spend a ton to get the top talent in the world and he has already mentioned the name of pride heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko. That has to be bad news for UFC president Dana White, who has been struggling in his negoitiations with the legendary Russian.

The sticking point is that White reportedly does not want Fedor to continue fighting in Russia's tough Sambo circuit, the reasoning being that UFC does not want to have it's champion risk losing in a nontitle match. Common sense thinking that has brought White so much success.

Now I acknowledge I have never heard Dana White ever say those words—but every internet fan and so called expert has anointed Fedor as the UFC champion, even before he steps in the cage. The big problem is that they already have a living legend as champion in Randy Couture. How many times is the MMA world going to write this man off?

I bet even if he beats Fedor we will no doubt hear what an upset it is. I will never question Fedor Emelianenko's greatness but there are some factors to consider before we just hand him the undisputed Heavyweight title

1. Pride fighters have struggled to adapt to the octogon.

Remember how Mirko Cro Cop was supposed to dominate UFC and take Couture's title? Well that never worked out. Dan Henderson faded in his unifaction with Rampage Jackson, who is one of the rare pride guys to succeed in the octogon.

2. Level of competition.

Fedor has with all due respct not exactly beaten the best around lately.Matt lindland is a great fighter but he is a middleweight contender not a heavyweight or even lightheavyweight. 2 wins over a badly faded Mark Coleman who was years past his prime. Same goes for Kevin Randleman. Nayoa Ogawa and Yuji Nagata were pro wrestlers the only real top notch competition has been Antonio Noguiera who has struggled in UFC and Cro Cop who has been a major bust.

3. Never count out Randy Couture.

Period. How many times can he keep pulling out the wins? That is the question from the doubters well I say lets give him the benefit of the doubt until he is 100% done and beaten.Fedor Emelianenko may dominate MMA for a long time, but he has to come to where the best competition is, and that is the UFC. Until then I will have a real hard time Worshiping him like the rest of the MMA world seems to.

Besides: maybe Couture will pull another "miracle" out again. I will not bet against him.

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post #2 of 53 (permalink) Old 09-17-2007, 07:08 PM
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I agree with pretty much everything he had to say. I know a lot of people are all over fedors nuts which is fine and all but the ufc is doing fine with out him if he wants to go to a little mma league please do you will no longer be considered the best in the world.
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He has some interesting points. I'm not convinced that anyone can beat Randy in 2007!
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It seemed like a lot of fighters who struggled in the UFC would go to pride with more success. I think fedor will suffer a loss if he comes to ufc. I beleive ufc fighters are GENERALLY more well-rounded than pride fighters. I beleive that if anyone can beat fedor, it's couture. Try to think of a fighter as skilled and well rounded that fedor has fought. You cant. Randy, i beleive, would win this fight (if it occurs) cause it will have to be standing and/or in the clinch. Fedor usually wins when the fight turns to a wrestling submission match

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What an uneducated dumbass that wrote this article. Fedor hasn't beaten any real competition? Nogueira is struggling in the UFC??? He's rated as the second best heavyweight in the ******* world (by MMAWeekly at least). Just because Cro Cop is having a midlife crisis right now, Fedor is automatically a shit fighter?????
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I think I read someone on this forum write almost that exact reasoning before
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now its getting interesting

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What an uneducated dumbass that wrote this article. Fedor hasn't beaten any real competition?
That's what he said. He also explained his reasoning. You have yet to address his or provide yours.

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Nogueira is struggling in the UFC??? He's rated as the second best heavyweight in the ******* world (by MMAWeekly at least).
You must have missed him give a mediocre performance against Heath Herring, who, in turn, lost to nobody in his UFC debut.

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Just because Cro Cop is having a midlife crisis right now, Fedor is automatically a shit fighter?????
He didn't make that argument. He pointed to the overall under-performance of Pride fighters in the UFC relative to the expectations.

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Sure.... Sports writers never say anything negative about athletes, and are usually fired if they do.

I'm not saying I agree with the author, but he clearly has a well-constructed argument backing up his claims. I can't say the same for you.

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Pride and UFC rules are like apples and oranges, so I don't understand why people are so shocked that Pride fighters have had a tough time adjusting.

Personally, I think Fedor's style is MUCH better suited for a cage than a ring, he would make the transition much easier than any of the other Pride fighters.
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As for this supposed argument, if anything this writer sounds like he is generally new to the MMA game and all over Randy Couture's nutsack.

It's not the fact Fedor has beaten some of the top fighters in the HW division, it's the fact he's done it so easily. I don't need to go over the stats, but to discredit his performances by using MMA math is a slap in the face to the Michael Jordan of our sport.
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