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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old 09-18-2007, 05:38 AM Thread Starter
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Top Fighters: Best and worst style matchups for them.

We've all heard the Style vs Style explanations of why a heavily underrated opponent owns a much higher ranked opponent over and over. Or the fact that styles can cut across ranks, reputation and experience. Which styles do you think match up best and worst against your top fighters. To start off:

Liddell

Best Matchup: pure wrestlers/BJJ - With his takedown defense, liddell can pick these guys apart. eg: Ortiz, Babalu.

Worst Matchup: classic boxers - Rampage exposed his striking deficiency against classic boxing in both matches .. carries his hands too low.
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Chuck's hands are low but fine usually for striking...He just made a bad mistake in his fight with Rampage and he shouldn't have made it and he said that himself.

I can understand why they gave him Jardine plus he fits as a good opponent for a come back fight.


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We've all heard the Style vs Style explanations of why a heavily underrated opponent owns a much higher ranked opponent over and over. Or the fact that styles can cut across ranks, reputation and experience. Which styles do you think match up best and worst against your top fighters. To start off:

Liddell

Best Matchup: pure wrestlers/BJJ - With his takedown defense, liddell can pick these guys apart. eg: Ortiz, Babalu.
Yeah, but Liddell got beat by Couture who most would consider is a wrestler/gnp. A wrestler who is able to control Liddell on the ground and not afraid to box with him to setup their TDs will beat Chuck.

Ortiz is afraid or Chuck, he looks so timid when he fights him compared to when he fights other fighters. Babalu just had the stupidest game plan ever when he came at Chuck in their rematch.
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best matchup: anyone w/ mediocore to even good takedown defence. a striker who doesn't use jabs much.

worst matchup: elusive strikers w/ great takedown defence. gsp and probably soon josh koscheck
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Yeah, but Liddell got beat by Couture who most would consider is a wrestler/gnp. A wrestler who is able to control Liddell on the ground and not afraid to box with him to setup their TDs will beat Chuck.

Ortiz is afraid or Chuck, he looks so timid when he fights him compared to when he fights other fighters. Babalu just had the stupidest game plan ever when he came at Chuck in their rematch.
chuck beat randy twice, chuck wins that battle. he lost the first fight becuz he came into the first fight out of shape and w/ no idea that couture would stand w/ him a bit. no excuses, but when he corrected himself...well you know what happened.

chuck's nightmare is a very composed striker who throws really good straight punches, covers up really well, has a good gas tank, and doesn't follow chuck but cuts him off.
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Rampage

Good matchups:
People who think they are better wrestlers/strikers than him (or think they'll tool him on the ground) but in fact cannot overpower him. For instance he destroyed the physically weaker Cyrril Abbidi (sp) 2 times in K1 (thats right not even in mma and almost completely without clinch), who has beaten Peter Aerts 2 consecutive times, simply with power combined with technique.

Bad matchups
People who can overpower him standing up using knees (Chuteboxe is bad matchup for him since the knee's force>the punch's force, and Rampage usually punches). Especially iof he gets hurt/overpowered in the clinch.

But even against a bad matchup he has a very good chance compared to other fighters of winning against that matchup IMo, since he's such an oppurtunitist with such power.

I can't argue with the analysises above.

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Rich Franklin.

Best match-ups: Grapplers who think they're strikers all of a sudden (Evan Tanner). Also, guys who let Franklin push them around (MacDonald).

Worst match-ups: Strikers who aren't afraid of Franklin's power (Silva & Machida).

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I wouldn't say they weren't afraid of Rich's power. Just more of each being the technically better striker and knowing not to chase a power puncher like Franklin, just let him bring it and counter.

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Best: Fighters who can't keep up with his pace or control his ground/clinch game.

Worst: Technically better strikers that can keep the distance and out box him.
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Good Matchups: Grapplers and/or fighters who like to stand up with him and are loopy strikers.

Bad Matchups: Grapplers who actualy either take him down or tie him up and work their game on him. And also grapplers that suddenly decide to strike (Randleman/Gonzaga)
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I wouldn't say they weren't afraid of Rich's power. Just more of each being the technically better striker and knowing not to chase a power puncher like Franklin, just let him bring it and counter.
What I meant to say was that they wouldn't let Rich dictate the fight. When you don't let Rich dictate the fight, then he panics. I guess my typing fingers typed something that came out wrong.

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