Originally Posted by IcemanCometh
The fact leben said that about another fighter is just classic pot calling the kettle black. I swear if he could back up half the shit that comes out of his mouth I might repect him-again. Funny how he thinks he is too heavy for 170 yet in every fight I have seen him in he looks chubby, or like he just an ice cream cake.
Actually, I don't think Leben could make it down to 170. In the TUF 1, he was really fit and he weighed 200 pounds. When I say really fit, he was the only guy on the show who actually finished the initial workout, and that included guys like KOS, Forrest Griffin, etc. You could essentially make out his muscle tone on that show and he's just the kind of guy who's never going to really have that "cut" look. Even Dan Henderson, who's in amazing shape, has never had very chiseled abs. Different people have different body shapes.
Now, back on to Leben, he definitely packed on some pudge after TUF, so I can imagine he was cutting from 200+. Tonight he looked to be back in fighting form, and I'd still guess he's at 198-200. That dude isn't making weight for 170, and if he does his entire game goes out the window. He's not Swick, who uses speed for KO's, nor is he a very gifted ground fighter. He's a brawler, and all that weight just helps his style. If he somehow made 170, he'd probably look like Swick, at which point I'd be telling him to hit the weights and put some weight on.