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post #111 of 117 (permalink) Old 09-24-2007, 12:32 AM
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2 losses in a row means you should retire? So do you also believe fighters like Josh Barnett, Randy Couture, Wanderlei Silva, Mirko Cro Cop, etc should have retired?
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2 losses in a row means you should retire? So do you also believe fighters like Josh Barnett, Randy Couture, Wanderlei Silva, Mirko Cro Cop, etc should have retired?
Pretty much. Wasn't that the UFC policy back in the day, 2 losses and you're out of the UFC? Whatever happened to that?
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I dont think Chuck should retire, I think Chuck needs to focus his head is clearly not in the game anymore.

He wouldnt even look Jardine in the eye at the staredown.

Man, I'm soo glad Jardines cockiness didnt get the better of him in that fight.
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Man, I'm soo glad Jardines cockiness didnt get the better of him in that fight.
Yeah it didn't get the better of him, but Jardine was cocky. Notice how when Chuck would back up Jardine would make "come on, fight" motions with his hands, but then Jardine backed up more than Chuck did, over the whole fight.

Not a big Jardine fan, sorry to see Chuck lose again, but he just didn't bring it to Jardine. Wonder where Chuck goes from here.

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LOL your joking right?
He REALLY fought and beat Jeremy Horn
He REALLY fought and beat Alistair Overeem
He REALLY fought and beat Vitor Belfort
He REALLY fought and beat Kevin Randleman
He REALLY fought and beat Jeff Monson
He REALLY fought and beat Renato Sobral x 2
He REALLY fought and beat Tito Ortiz x 2

They must have all been cans right? sorry but you obviously are a new fan to MMA and might need to brush up on your fight history. I donít think chuck is the best but he is one of the best in his weight class.
Hey Slapshot, you forgot to put the "slowed-down pre-retirement Couture" that just happens to be the Heavyweight Champ right now. Oh yeah, and he did knock him out 2x. Just wanted to throw that one out there.
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I am not a huge Chuck Fan but he definatly did not being his game the last 2 fights. It looks like his head is not in the game. Chuck will rebound.
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post #117 of 117 (permalink) Old 09-24-2007, 10:39 AM
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I am not a huge Chuck Fan but he definatly did not being his game the last 2 fights. It looks like his head is not in the game. Chuck will rebound.
I dont know if thats the case. His head may not have been in the game but I think it was just a case of Jardine executing a good gameplan and being able to withstand Chucks shots. Because lets be honest Chucks relied on his shots to land and put people to sleep forever without that he doesnt have much.

I dont think hell bounce back either. MMA has passed Chuck by and hes just too one dimensional anymore. Fighters have gotten smarter and good gameplans are required in most fights now. Chuck is not a planner and hes easy to plan for since hes one dimensional. Add that to how old he is and it looks like Chucks days of being succesful in mma are over.

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