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post #71 of 128 (permalink) Old 06-18-2016, 08:14 AM
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Whatever. I thought it was a fun fight. Fabio has some nice hands. That counter hook in the first that started the ball rolling was superb. That alone is enough to separate Fabio from "absolute bum" status.

I agree with Clyde. Fedor took a beating in the first but was still in it. He was dazed and stumbling - but still in it. I thought it was good on the ref for letting it go on.

Regardless, I was entertained.
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post #72 of 128 (permalink) Old 06-18-2016, 08:50 AM
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Apart from me sincerely wishing the best for Fedor's long-term health after this beating (personally would've stopped it during the 1st), man what a hilarious event.

I can see why the 2nd and 3rd were given to Fedor by the judges (I thought he clearly won the 2nd), and yes it was an extraordinary display of heart and resilience but the guy has been receiving hard blows to the head since forever (Randlemann spiking him on his head, Bigfoot shutting his eyes with GNP, Hendo putting his lights out then back on, hell even Rodgers busted him up from mount) I'm surprised people think his long-term health was not in danger during what was to me the longest 'beating while chicken dancing' moment ever, very close to a standing-KO situation (Fedor went out multiple times during the GNP). I was laughing and cringing and cheering at the same time ,lol. While I don't care much for "Maldanada" as a fighter, the guy's a boxer with very heavy hands, and he landed quite a few there (there was one more nasty hook during the 3rd that gave Fedor one last proper wobble).

Fuk was up with that commentator? lol
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post #73 of 128 (permalink) Old 06-18-2016, 09:39 AM
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I'm not seeing where Fedor was out in the first? Sure he takes some shots in the GnP which stun him, but i can't see him shut off at any point.

Never liked Fedor, but great show of heart.
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Serious danger is when, if the fight goes on, they will permanently damage you


....Fedor arguably won the next two rounds. He continued, he fought on. Win, lose or draw, that was the right call.
If the fighter taking the beating isn't completely out, stopping a fight or not is solely a referee's decision, based on his own reasons at the time.
If referees opinions may vary, I expect fans opinions would too. That being said, what I've said before was it is irrelevant to mention the next rounds when what is in question is the decision of stopping the fight or not.

How many times we've seeing fights being stopped solely because one wasn't fighting back or unable to block punches without ever being out? Was Weidman out when they stopped the fight? What if he could continue to take a beating to the end of second and come back strong on the third and retains his belt? It doesn't matter.

There is no such thing like "it was the best call because the guy won the following rounds". That's the point. It's fighter's integrity that shall matter in the eyes of the referee at the moment, nothing that happened in the future matters.

PS: Just to make clear. I don't think it was an outrage to keep the fight going. That isn't an issue to me. Maldonado himself said he agrees with the referee's decision to keep the fight going.
That being said, I am also sure that fight would be stopped on the first round if it was Maldonado taking that same beating and wandering on wobbly legs accross that Russian cage instead of Fedor.
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@Sportsman 2.0 I agree with you and wouldn't have complained had it been stopped. Now however, with the benefit of hindsight, we can clearly see the referee was correct in his decision as Fedor was not in serious danger at that moment and was able to recover and continue fighting.

@Soojooko Fabio varies too much. One minute he has a good chin, technical boxing and killer body work, the next he's getting KOed by a jab. He also has some of the worst fight IQ ever. The ONLY time Fedor landed a shot was with Fabio on the cage, and Fabio backed Fedor across the ring with effortless jabs which had no counters whenever he wanted. Fabio could have won that fight without taking a punch if he wanted.
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@Sportsman 2.0 I agree with you and wouldn't have complained had it been stopped. Now however, with the benefit of hindsight, we can clearly see the referee was correct in his decision as Fedor was not in serious danger at that moment and was able to recover and continue fighting.

@Soojooko Fabio varies too much. One minute he has a good chin, technical boxing and killer body work, the next he's getting KOed by a jab. He also has some of the worst fight IQ ever. The ONLY time Fedor landed a shot was with Fabio on the cage, and Fabio backed Fedor across the ring with effortless jabs which had no counters whenever he wanted. Fabio could have won that fight without taking a punch if he wanted.
The referee is there for fighter safety and nothing else. The referee isn't there to calculate whether a fighter could recover in the following rounds and win the fight.

Fedor will have received some serious brain damage from that first round, he was out on his feet on several occasions and sustained an absolutely ridiculous beating.

In in the interest of fighter safety and for Fedor's health, the fight should have been stopped. He's going to have some serious long term health issues from beatings like that, as is JDS from the beatings he took from Cain.



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The referee is there for fighter safety and nothing else. The referee isn't there to calculate whether a fighter could recover in the following rounds and win the fight.

Fedor will have received some serious brain damage from that first round, he was out on his feet on several occasions and sustained an absolutely ridiculous beating.

In in the interest of fighter safety and for Fedor's health, the fight should have been stopped. He's going to have some serious long term health issues from beatings like that, as is JDS from the beatings he took from Cain.
I'm not 100% sure on how brain damage works in this regard, but would it not be a frequency of punches rather than which punches hurt you? I've seen fighters take MUCH worse beatings than Fedor. He only took a handful on the feet and the ground and pound was good but not the most impactful. Everything was hurting Fedor but Robbie Lawler probably gets hit more and harder in a 5 rounder.

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Maldonado is too passive for his own good sometimes.

I wonnder if he's kicking himself for not being more aggressive in the 2nd and 3rd.
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Maldonado shows clear signs of brain damage himself for a good time already and I've posted about this before more than one time. His speeches are those of a drunk man and his mentalility is the one of a child and he acts like one, thinking it is funny to show how much damage he can take in his fights, calling his opponents to hit him more and keep going. Maldonado should be retired for medical reasons for a good time.
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With the amount of damage he has taken and the type of wars he's been in it's not surprising. It is worrisome cause he might already be mentally where Gary Goodridge is if not worse. He does need to retire asap.

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