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Old 09-23-2007, 03:39 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I think there's a big difference between getting a lucky punch knock out by a random guy, or being junked in the nuts or being poked in the eye. But come on man, the way Shogun gassed, you can't put him anyone near top 10. This wasn't even about fighting, his conditioning was worse than a B level fighter.
so becuz rampage got outclassed by shogun a few years ago he doesn't deserve to be in the top ten either eh?
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Old 09-23-2007, 03:39 AM   #12 (permalink)
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i agree w/ your first 2 but i'd go w/ something like

1. rampage
2. dan henderson
3. wanderlei
4. shogun
5. sokky
6. griffin
7. chuck
8. arona
9. jardine
10. lil nog

something along those lines
How are you gonna put Chuck at 7 and Jardine at 9?
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I agree his conditioning looked HORRIBLE. He was gassing at the end of the first. They were not even fighting at a frantic pace. Looks like steroids and a crooked company may be the difference.
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Old 09-23-2007, 03:41 AM   #14 (permalink)
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are you drunk man?
sadley no....

but seriously.

obviously Rampage is the number one ranked guy right now, you cant question that.

so i put henderson next, cuz he did good against page, and beat wandy. now follow me here

i put alexander next cuz he beat jardine who beat forrest and liddell

since jardine beat forest and forest beat shogun, i put shogun after those two.

i just threw in soko for shits in giggles, because he is similar to alexander. (thus why they are together)


so yeah, i guess thats why i made it that way...i dont see anyone beating rampage right now...so hes 1-5. i mean common...forest...yeah ok that'd happen? alexander...to untested. shogun looked like poopy today, and its been a long time since he fought page so who knows.

wand in chuck are about even both with 2 losses now.

so got any reasonable argument for why i am wrong, or just some more "retarded" comments
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Old 09-23-2007, 03:45 AM   #15 (permalink)
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How are you gonna put Chuck at 7 and Jardine at 9?
becuz chuck is a more accomplished fighter than jardine, despite the loss. jardine now has 1 or 2(if you count forrest, which I do). chuck has beat randleman, randy x 2, tito x 2, horn, babalu x 2, overeem, vitor....

we've seen how chuck matches up w/ alot of differnt styles as well. jardine beat a striker w/ good td defence. when he beats great guys of different backgrounds, then i'll put him above chuck
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so becuz rampage got outclassed by shogun a few years ago he doesn't deserve to be in the top ten either eh?

nope, not true. Rampage kept fighting even with a broken rib. It's true he lost, but it was only after having suffered a severe injury, and neither did he have appropriate coaching at the time. Shogun lost, not because he's not skillful, not because he's not accustomed to the octagon. He ****ed up the most basic thing in any type of sports on a professional level. Conditioning. That is why i wiped him off the top 10 on my list. Anyone who can't keep up a fight for that short a duration but with that much experience definitely does not deserve a solid ranking
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nope, not true. Rampage kept fighting even with a broken rib. It's true he lost, but it was only after having suffered a severe injury, and neither did he have appropriate coaching at the time. Shogun lost, not because he's not skillful, not because he's not accustomed to the octagon. He ****ed up the most basic thing in any type of sports on a professional level. Conditioning. That is why i wiped him off the top 10 on my list. Anyone who can't keep up a fight for that short a duration but with that much experience definitely does not deserve a solid ranking
so is gomi off your top 10 lw rankings?
what about dan hendersen..he gassed against rampage..?
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so is gomi off your top 10 lw rankings?
what about dan hendersen..he gassed against rampage..?

Gomi gassed after giving Diaz the whooping of a life time, Henderson gassed after having been using up all his strength on the ground against Rampage, and he wasn't gassed like Shogun was either, and he kept it up all the way for 5 rounds. Shogun died after 1 round which wasn't even extremely grueling.
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