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Old 09-23-2007, 11:32 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:37 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Its just that the skill levels are so low at this point. Any college wrestler and six month of mma training can compete. There is no other sport in the world where that can happen. Most sports take a lifetime of training to seperate the elite from the club fighters. There are just no elite fighters in mma yet. Maybe it will evolve but maybe not. Try to imagine someone winning a tv tryout show and ending up pitching for the Yankees. Try to imagine a tv fighter with a few years of training taking on Floyd maywether. It just could not happen in any mature sport.
I'm gonna ignore that you said that the skill level is low...

If this is so then someone like Matt Hammil should be primed for a title. He is a world-class wrestler who-has-been-training for a very long time. He has also had much more than mma training than 6 months. But there are plenty 205ers that will eat him for lunch. It IS your opinion and I'll respect that...but I think it'd be best if you educate yourself before making grandious statements. MMA fighters are on the high end of professional athletes.
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:03 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Its just that the skill levels are so low at this point. Any college wrestler and six month of mma training can compete. There is no other sport in the world where that can happen. Most sports take a lifetime of training to seperate the elite from the club fighters. There are just no elite fighters in mma yet. Maybe it will evolve but maybe not. Try to imagine someone winning a tv tryout show and ending up pitching for the Yankees. Try to imagine a tv fighter with a few years of training taking on Floyd maywether. It just could not happen in any mature sport.
Most college wrestlers have a lifetime of training in wrestling.
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:23 AM   #24 (permalink)
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This is a stupid thread, if anything these upsets are good for MMA. Although I think Chuck lost a few fans from UFC 76.
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Old 09-24-2007, 08:59 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Well let me refine mystatement a bit. MMA skills are not low it is more a fact that they are not specifically devloped for the rules the fight under. UFC's rules are so limiting that for someone to be elite they have to not just be the best fighter but the best within the rules. This is a unique problem to MMa. Every other sport can start training for the game they want to excel at in childhood and know that the rules of BB or Hocky will be the same when the are pros. Now that the UFC is estalished people will be able to train for those specific rules and we should start to see seperation from the good and the great.
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Well let me refine mystatement a bit. MMA skills are not low it is more a fact that they are not specifically devloped for the rules the fight under. UFC's rules are so limiting that for someone to be elite they have to not just be the best fighter but the best within the rules. This is a unique problem to MMa. Every other sport can start training for the game they want to excel at in childhood and know that the rules of BB or Hocky will be the same when the are pros. Now that the UFC is estalished people will be able to train for those specific rules and we should start to see seperation from the good and the great.
Totally agree with you. I think it's funny how after someone wins, they often talk about how they've learned Jiu Jitsu in the last 6 weeks, which helped win the fight.

The age of the multi-disciplined fighter is really only starting now. Guys like Frank Shamrock, and BJ Penn, who were pioneers, will soon be the norm.

Another big problem at the moment in the UFC, is that so few of the new fighters coming into the UFC have actually fought in a cage before. The Pride guys haven't adjusted very well at all.
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