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Old 09-23-2007, 01:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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worried about mma.

Where are we going with mma? It seems to me like we have gotten to the point where anyone can beat anyone else. Are we headed to the point where there will be no stars anymore?

Maybe this sport is at the top of it's evolution, and everyone will just be equal because they all train in the same stuff. It will all just be opportunity and luck that will dictate who wins.


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Old 09-23-2007, 01:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Nothing to be worried over. If anything this will only benefit the sport in the long run. It's another phase in the evolutionary process.
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Old 09-23-2007, 01:51 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Its just that the skill levels are so low at this point. Any college wrestler and six month of mma training can compete. There is no other sport in the world where that can happen. Most sports take a lifetime of training to seperate the elite from the club fighters. There are just no elite fighters in mma yet. Maybe it will evolve but maybe not. Try to imagine someone winning a tv tryout show and ending up pitching for the Yankees. Try to imagine a tv fighter with a few years of training taking on Floyd maywether. It just could not happen in any mature sport.
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Ehh u cant say we have no elite fighters... cmon dude give the mma stars more credit then that. they train just as hard as your nfl guys do if not harder. i believe ur post is one of the stupidest ones around.

I do see what you mean it seems that everyone trains hard and that any fight could go any way now. I believe that in half a year or so we will start seeing dominating fighters again (No im not talking about fedor)
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Its just that the skill levels are so low at this point. Any college wrestler and six month of mma training can compete. There is no other sport in the world where that can happen. Most sports take a lifetime of training to seperate the elite from the club fighters. There are just no elite fighters in mma yet. Maybe it will evolve but maybe not. Try to imagine someone winning a tv tryout show and ending up pitching for the Yankees. Try to imagine a tv fighter with a few years of training taking on Floyd maywether. It just could not happen in any mature sport.
I hope you are joking...
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What you are seeing is called parity it exist in any sport where everyone is given the same oppurtunity to compete and in my opinion its what makes any sport great, look at the NFL every Sunday every team has a shot at winning.

If you take that away what would be the reason for watching and what would make young fighters want to enter the sport.

While I was shocked by the upsets the alternaitve is worse
were Shogun,Wandy,Rampage, and Chuck only lose when they face each other.
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Old 09-23-2007, 04:19 PM   #7 (permalink)
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why are you stupid.
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Old 09-23-2007, 04:24 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Its just that the skill levels are so low at this point. Any college wrestler and six month of mma training can compete. There is no other sport in the world where that can happen. Most sports take a lifetime of training to seperate the elite from the club fighters. There are just no elite fighters in mma yet. Maybe it will evolve but maybe not. Try to imagine someone winning a tv tryout show and ending up pitching for the Yankees. Try to imagine a tv fighter with a few years of training taking on Floyd maywether. It just could not happen in any mature sport.
wtf are you talking about? put pretty boy floyd into an mma fight with only a few months of training and see how he does, half the guys in the division will pop him when he bobs and weaves straight into their fists.
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Where are we going with mma? It seems to me like we have gotten to the point where anyone can beat anyone else. Are we headed to the point where there will be no stars anymore?

Maybe this sport is at the top of it's evolution, and everyone will just be equal because they all train in the same stuff. It will all just be opportunity and luck that will dictate who wins.


Randy couture over fedor
That is what is making MMA great, any body can win a match.

All in how you train, what , you train, who you train with, how big your heart is ect.. not luck and oportunity
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That is what is making MMA great, any body can win a match.

All in how you train, what , you train, who you train with, how big your heart is ect.. not luck and oportunity
i agree. something else to consider is that its typically the fighter's who've been in the sport a while that are getting beat. the new guys have come in, having trained true mma- bjj, boxing, wrestling, muay thai- they are usually well rounded (i am aware of the exceptions). The fighters who had been around started out being very good at one thing and then as the sport has progressed they've had to branch out. in doing so, they remain very strong in one skill and decent in the rest. just something to consider.

also, what fun would it be if the same people just won all the time? i was soooooo glad to see rampage beat chuck. i was so sick of chuck winning every match the exact same way. and a very special grats to jardine who has to be the first person in, what? 3 years or so to make chuck go all 3 rounds??? i think it all just raises the level of competitiveness.

also, beforehand you'd get a lot of fighters who would come in with a gameplan, but they weren't watching tape much to study their opponent. it seems that now things are so close that fighters will have to take every necessary action to formulate a strategic gameplan that plays to the weaknesses of their opponent. another thing i saw in jardines fight was that he was the first person to take advantage of chuck's INSANELY open stance. the straight kicks to the chest were a good call along with the leg kicks and that crushing rib kick. when's the last time some went down the middle with chuck lidell?

anyways... sorry for the long post- but what it comes down to is a general rise in the competitiveness of the sport, which is NOT a bad thing.
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