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Old 09-23-2007, 04:28 PM   #21 (permalink)
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This thread makes me a much bigger fan of BJ Penn, a natural lightweight who fights anyone regardless of weight class. And does fairly well with skill alone, going the distance with Machida at 205. And I'll put Henderson in that club too, since he could have always stayed at middle weight, but isn't afraid to take a heavyweight like Big Nog.

I understand the financial and career benefits of moving down in weight, but as a fan you don't have to respect it just because it's a good career move.

I respect fighters who move up in competition, not down.
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Old 09-23-2007, 04:30 PM   #22 (permalink)
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This thread makes me a much bigger fan of BJ Penn, a natural lightweight who fights anyone regardless of weight class. And does fairly well with skill alone, going the distance with Machida at 205. And I'll put Henderson in that club too, since he could have always stayed at middle weight, but isn't afraid to take a heavyweight like Big Nog.

I understand the financial and career benefits of moving down in weight, but as a fan you don't have to respect it just because it's a good career move.

I respect fighters who move up in competition, not down.
That's how I feel.
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Old 09-23-2007, 04:55 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I fail to see how moving to a very stacked lightweight division filled with bad ass fighters is a puss decision. Anyways, it probably would be the right move for Diego right now.
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Old 09-23-2007, 05:24 PM   #24 (permalink)
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i think he'd do well at 185

way too much competition at 155, he'd get buried.
but i would like to see him vs. joe stevenson- that fight has potential to be either very exciting or very very boring.

he'd definitely climb the ranks at 185.
not so much 155. with penn, florian, sherk, franca, spencer fischer, and sam stout rounding out the top of that division- i think deigo would have a hard time keeping the spotlight on himself like he's had in the past. 185 is definitely his place to shine.
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Old 09-23-2007, 05:29 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I think he would be better at 155.
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He's probably feeling very frustrated right now, because Fitch just plain overpowered him. Maybe he's worried guys like GSP and Hughes would just do the same thing to him.

I hope he stays at welterweight, because I'm sick of seeing everyone drop classes when they lose, but I bet BJ vs. Diego would be crazy on the ground.
you make a good point. but if he moved up in weight he'd be stronger as he's not very tall. it'd be a bit of a handicap in the striking game, but a major strength to his wrestling.

if diego goes down in weight he's gonna be leaner. he'd probably end up looking similar to florian in build. not a good call. hes a quick fighter, and i dont think a little extra weight would slow him down. he def needs to move up to 185 if he's gonna move at all.

as for diego vs. bj- haha... 1st round submission, penn. diego has worked his jiujitsu, but he can't touch bj. and bj's developed a respectable boxing game too as he showed with hughes and to a smaller extent, st. pierre.
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Old 09-23-2007, 05:37 PM   #27 (permalink)
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as for diego vs. bj- haha... 1st round submission, penn. diego has worked his jiujitsu, but he can't touch bj.
You're probably right, but it would be a lot of fun while it lasted.

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I think Diego lacks the strength needed to compete at 170.
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I think everyone should read the quote again. Diego says needs to either lift heavier and put on some weight OR make the cut to 155 lbs.

He is simply being honest with himself. He's an average sized welterweight which is a disadvantage at the elite level.

Fitch was bigger & stronger. Kos is bigger and stronger. GSP made Kos look small. In order to compete with the top welterweights Diego will have to get bigger and stronger. Or he can cut to 155 like Sean Sherk who came to the same realization.

Diego doesn't have a big frame for 170 so he could probably cut to 155 fairly easily. I don't think you can fault Diego for simply acknowledging reality.
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Old 09-23-2007, 05:53 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Diego doesn't have a big frame for 170 so he could probably cut to 155 fairly easily. I don't think you can fault Diego for simply acknowledging reality.
At five-foot-11, he's not exactly small, either.

If he stays at 170, who's up for Diego Sanchez vs. Thiago Alves? Sounds pretty good to me.
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