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post #11 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-24-2007, 06:40 AM
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Jardine = Brawler
Sakara = Brawler
Alexander = Brawler
Machida = Counter Pouncher

if Houston will do the same as Jardine did with Chuck he might have a chance. But Lyoto will still pick him apart.

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it annoys me when people say i was impressed by lyoto last night lyoto is such a good fighter i cant really think of anyone that that would be fav to beat him he never seems to be in any trouble in his fights, has awsome cardio,and iz a nightmare to hit,its time for him to fight top contender now and prove he deserves to be at the top.
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it annoys me when people say i was impressed by lyoto last night lyoto is such a good fighter i cant really think of anyone that that would be fav to beat him he never seems to be in any trouble in his fights, has awsome cardio,and iz a nightmare to hit,its time for him to fight top contender now and prove he deserves to be at the top.
My thoughts exactly. I'd pick Lyoto over any LHW right now.



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The most technically sound striker in the LHW vs a guy who had 2 fights last a total of less than 1 round. I'm gonna go with the Lyoto. It would probably be embarrassing and may force Houston to choose a new career path.
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My thoughts exactly. I'd pick Lyoto over any LHW right now.
I don't know about ANY LHW, but he certainly did impress me quite a bit against Nakamura. We got to see a much more agressive Machida while at the same time, he kept technically sound. IMO Machida beats Alexander 70% of the time, but I wouldn't count out Alexander either, that dude has got some serious power and potential.

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Of course I'm biased towards Houston, but honestly, Machida may be a counter puncher... but after all his talk he didn't put Naka away in the 1st like he said. Because (to me, I haven't seen Machida fight much) I would think he doesn't have the power to KO Houston. So even if Houston's cardio was complete shit, if you can't kill him in one shot, he's bound to get ahold of you eventually and start smashing you against the cage.

I stick with my guy Houston on this one. If Machida was one punch KO Power with his style, I'd be a little skeptical. How's Machida's submission skills? I still don't know how Houston does against sub defense.

But I mean really, Houston's fights have both been a minute or less. If a fight with him goes all 3 rounds, he's got 15 chances to do what he did to Jardine or Sak. Scary odds

I'll let you guys know if he spills anything on who he's fighting next.
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Of course I'm biased towards Houston, but honestly, Machida may be a counter puncher... but after all his talk he didn't put Naka away in the 1st like he said. Because (to me, I haven't seen Machida fight much) I would think he doesn't have the power to KO Houston. So even if Houston's cardio was complete shit, if you can't kill him in one shot, he's bound to get ahold of you eventually and start smashing you against the cage.

I stick with my guy Houston on this one. If Machida was one punch KO Power with his style, I'd be a little skeptical. How's Machida's submission skills? I still don't know how Houston does against sub defense.

But I mean really, Houston's fights have both been a minute or less. If a fight with him goes all 3 rounds, he's got 15 chances to do what he did to Jardine or Sak. Scary odds

I'll let you guys know if he spills anything on who he's fighting next.
Like most, I am very impressed with Houston Alexander. But to be fair, we really haven't seen much from him in the terms of
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-Cardio etc etc

And from what I have seen, he wouldn't have 15 chances, he would have about 2 chances before he got gassed.

I think it would be unfair to assume that Machida can't KO Alexander seeing as we haven't seen his chin tested. Given his questionable cardio, I certainly think Machida could get a decision or 2nd round TKO.

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And from what I have seen, he wouldn't have 15 chances, he would have about 2 chances before he got gassed.

I think it would be unfair to assume that Machida can't KO Alexander seeing as we haven't seen his chin tested. Given his questionable cardio, I certainly think Machida could get a decision or 2nd round TKO.
This is the only issue I have with Houston skeptics.

Because he was tired after beating down Sakara he has questionable cardio? That was after having to rain down a ton of punches to get the ref to stop it. I'd expect anyone to be tired.

Now because of that, if he circles around with Machida throwing a jab here and there for a round, he's going to be tired? I guess I just don't get that argument. If a guy is winded after beating somebody on the ground with as many hard punches as Houston throws (Alternating arms with bombs, not the KenFlo rabbit humping right hand on Thomas) then I don't see why that's a cardio concern. It's not like he is Shogun by round 2. Or Terry Martin after one minute.

I don't know, if it's cause we don't KNOW about his cardio, that's fine. But to assume he will gas because he was out of breath in the Sak fight... I disagree with that. Jet Lag even maybe, don't know if he's ever fought over seas.
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This is the only issue I have with Houston skeptics.

Because he was tired after beating down Sakara he has questionable cardio? That was after having to rain down a ton of punches to get the ref to stop it. I'd expect anyone to be tired.

Now because of that, if he circles around with Machida throwing a jab here and there for a round, he's going to be tired? I guess I just don't get that argument. If a guy is winded after beating somebody on the ground with as many hard punches as Houston throws (Alternating arms with bombs, not the KenFlo rabbit humping right hand on Thomas) then I don't see why that's a cardio concern. It's not like he is Shogun by round 2. Or Terry Martin after one minute.

I don't know, if it's cause we don't KNOW about his cardio, that's fine. But to assume he will gas because he was out of breath in the Sak fight... I disagree with that. Jet Lag even maybe, don't know if he's ever fought over seas.
Well I said his cardio is QUESTIONABLE which you have to agree it is. He fought for barely 1 minute in the Sakara fight, and his flurry must have lasted for all of 20-30 seconds. Now come on, for that amount of activity it is kind of hard to explain how hard he was panting after the fight. I don't know maybe he was already breathing hard before the fight due to nerves or something. But you have to see why people might say that his cardio is questionable.

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i said the same exact statement on my post about houston i mean i love this guy but will he have the same force after 2 rounds? i do hope he would still win in a convincing fashion. but lyoto machida would be a harder test for him imo. i say forrest is a better fight for houston if you guys want to test his(houston's) cardio ...
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