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UFC 202: Diaz vs. McGregor 2 - Main Event Discussion

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Welterweight Division - 170 pounds



Main Event

Conor McGregor vs. Nate Diaz​
 
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#8 ·
It's a good stylistic matchup as there is no wrestlefvckfest threat and Diaz is willing to trade where McGregor shines best. It's a bad stylistic matchup as Diaz has elite MMA-boxing (levelling out McGregor's skill advantage he had over other opponents) and a long reach and the additional distance to overcome with McGregors explosive aggressive in-and-out game is super taxing cardiowise (see Machida vs Jones).
 
#6 ·
I like Nate in the rematch. He showed he can take Conor's power and keep coming and I believe an early stoppage is Conor's best shot. The longer the fight goes, the more the momentum swings to Nate imo. On top of that, Nate just has more ways to win the fight than Conor does.
 
#7 ·
If you listen to Kav and Conor they will make you believe Conor now has sea level cain cardio. That they did everything wrong and this camp it is corrected. 18 weeks of great cardio training, scientific training. I like that they made a point to say this. They seemed real happy with their shape last fight going in but changed their minds after he lost. Nice to have it in stone on record this time.

If Conor has a crazy gas tank now it should be a hell of a fight that goes perhaps the distance or much longer than 1.80 rounds.
 
#10 ·
Nates not making it out of the second round. The boy is getting heavier and slower now that he got a decent paycheck, he's had to do all the media work, I reckon he is going to be actually worse then he was the first time, and Conor will be better.

The body will be worked more in the first round and the legs. The head will then get taken off in the second. Nate a bloody mess on the floor, and then Nick will cause some trouble for a scuffle outside the ring, and the next fight will be Conor vs Nick
 
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About this rematch, even though it won't happen, I wonder how funny it would be if Nate took Conor down right away and grappled fuk him. Just imagine the frustration. :laugh:

And I can't believe people suggesting Nate won't be that prepared because he got lazy after the first win and had to attend media presses and shows. If he had 1 sparring session for this rematch, he would have had more training than he had the first time. And he sparred way more than one time for this one.

I also think he'll be bigger in a healthy way and even more resistant and if the fight hits the mat, he'll weigh on Conor even easier.
 
#16 ·
And I can't believe people suggesting Nate won't be that prepared because he got lazy after the first win and had to attend media presses and shows. If he had 1 sparring session for this rematch, he would have had more training than he had the first time. And he sparred way more than one time for this one.
Yeah, this is actually the most wishful thinking bullshit you are gonna see, that's what people are betting on? Nate being fat and out of shape, sounds grim, pessimistic. Also shooting down there own guys win if it happens to go that way, so if Conor wins... can people just say "So what? Nate was lazy and not in shape anyway."

Like you say, Pretty sure Nate is gonna be in better shape now than he was on no fight camp.
 
#19 ·
Lol throwing bottles at eachother. Conor was late. Nate walked out. Bottles everywhere. Everyone else miss this or what?

1 piece of news....Dana said conor defends belt next or its stripped.

Nate made fun of conor for having pictures of himself punching Nate in a fight he lost hanging up in his garage...hahaha
 
#24 ·
I might bet all my vbookie credits on Conor.

Nate isn't looking as confident this time around. There could be some truth to what Conor said about Nate being a few solid shots from being finished in the first fight.

Hopefully this goes better for Conor than the times BJ Penn tried to fight @ 170.
 
#25 ·
Conor throwing the bottles looked stupid. Not as stupid as Nick Diaz suddenly looking like the younger brother. "Yeah, Nate's walking this way and doing middle fingers so I'm gonna do all that too. Nate just flexed his arms a bit? Shit I'll do that too". Fk was that? Nick's the badass and Nate's the one copying him, get your shit together Diaz bros!

But yeah, Conor throwing those bottles looked pretty stupid. He seemed fairly angry too. Think he could be a bit nervous coming into this one (which isn't specifically a bad thing. Nerves can help you stay on the gameplan). Why did Diaz walk out anyways? Kind of annoying that he was all one word answers then the mic was away and he turned motor mouth. We wanted to hear that shit. I dislike the whole team dissing too, but this time it worked cause we've got Artem and Chris. Nate should have threw a little bit in there too saying Chris would smash Artem. Conor was there for the picking imo and Nate let him off easy. Dunno if it'll go like that on Saturday night though.

Dana fking hates Conor :laugh:
 
#27 ·
I think on will do well if he manages not to be haunted by his public racial slur and the swearing. The F bombs probably aren't going to go down too well in America, they're funny about that sort of thing. I think the racial slur is more worrying for Conor. It's very draining if anyone makes a ill judged remark, if he can block out losing his cool like that, then that's actually quite impressive.

I'm a Diaz brother fan and I'm happy with the way things went down. I was worried that Nate wasn't in war mode with all his media smooching and seeming all happy. Also I don't see a McGregor hit and run point game happening after this, which is all to the good.
 
#28 ·
Conor wants to come in more relaxed and fight a smarter fight. Maybe he will. But Nate got him going...haha

Nate just wanted to walk out while Conor was talking. He let conor dtart warming up on the mic and then took the eyes off him.

Conor was wearing girl pants. Shields throws like a girl. New info and scouting reports were exposed.
 
#30 ·
Conor wants to come in more relaxed and fight a smarter fight. Maybe he will. But Nate got him going...haha

Nate just wanted to walk out while Conor was talking. He let conor dtart warming up on the mic and then took the eyes off him.
McGregor's whole media-shtick seems to have gone. His talking, even before Diaz leaving didn't seem as sharp at all as previously. His exclusive dresses underlining his media persona changed to boring fraternity poloshirt. It's a bit weird to see McGregor so small mediapersonawise. He really has to win this fight or his stock may fall big time.
 
#33 ·
Wow, just watched the press conference. Conor is so lost, indeed. His confidence is gone. He is all (bad) talking now.
Throwing bottles? So pathetic. Got late and caused massive confusion and had the press finished.

Now physically, he looked somehow smaller than the last time, while Nate seemed bigger. My impression, at least.
 
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