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09-28-2007, 05:49 PM
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^^^I almost totally agree, look at it this way Tito was an early 2nd gen and beat Shamrock (1st gen) and was a fairly good champion but now the fighters are improving again with the top of the 2nd gen and begining of the 3rd coming in and Tito is no longer relevant to the title picture, he is now nothing more than a gate keeper. The only real problem with this analogy is where the hell does Randy fit?!!??! The guy is a phenoem who would have to be called a first gen fighter and the guy is still on top,
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09-28-2007, 07:11 PM
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Randy? The exception that proves the rule ofcourse 
Although you could argue that Randy hasn't fought any of the top of the food chain 3rd gen guys like Fedor.
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10-01-2007, 05:06 PM
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thats too bad.
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10-01-2007, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Flak
Eventually we wont have "strikers" "grapplers" "BJJ" etc, they'll just be everything. What i mean is, Hughes is a "wrestler", while GSP is a....i dont know what he is to be honest.
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10-01-2007, 05:14 PM
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hahah 
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Demian Maia may be the Fred Astaire of jiu-jitsu, but it’s too bad Silva is the Gene Kelly of kicking everyone’s ass.
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10-01-2007, 05:17 PM
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lol, gotta love the terrible jokes  |
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10-01-2007, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bellr77
^^^I almost totally agree, look at it this way Tito was an early 2nd gen and beat Shamrock (1st gen) and was a fairly good champion but now the fighters are improving again with the top of the 2nd gen and begining of the 3rd coming in and Tito is no longer relevant to the title picture, he is now nothing more than a gate keeper. The only real problem with this analogy is where the hell does Randy fit?!!??! The guy is a phenoem who would have to be called a first gen fighter and the guy is still on top,
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I’ll tell you where Randy fits in, any where he wants, he may be a 1st generation fighter but you could also say he’s a 3rd generation fighter, he’s not afraid to go away from his base (Greco-Roman) and add to his skill set, learn adapt and reinvent himself.
Without Randy’s insane work ethic and cerebral approach to MMA he would have never been able to accomplish his comeback.
No one can gain the top spot in this sport with only one top of the food chain skill set.
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10-01-2007, 06:33 PM
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See theres a problem to this next gen stuff. There are to many exceptions.
For example, Vitor was a phenominal (pardon the pun) 2nd gen fighter who got his ass handed to him by a first gen fighter (atleast at the time) randy couture.
And what about Bas Rutten and Frank Shamrock..they where more or less the 3rd gen fighter model. Because they can beat you with anything. And wasnt Bas Ruttens only real weakness Ken Shamrock..who was a first Gen fighter.
Basically every fighter tries to be a thrid gen fighter as they are being called. The thing people neglect is that they are phenomonally skilled. Obviously everyone wants to be great in everything, the thing is though some people like GSP and Fedor and Rutten are just naturally talented.
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10-01-2007, 06:42 PM
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Bas really picked up shit fast. When he got subbed, he learned the sub game, and he got very good at it. His striking, of course, is legendary, as Bas was very precise and focused on body movements. He came in and steamrolled fools, but a pro-wrestler, Ken Shamrock, owned him...twice. However, I think Bas would've steamrolled through Ken if they fought around 1998. But, Kenny did his WWF shit.
Frank Shamrock is just a naturally talented guy. A guy who can still hang, and a guy who has adapted his skills to fit the current mold of fighting.
I don't know, these guys like GSP are just really, really athletic and people who seem to pick up things at a quick pace. Basically, they've seen the past, tried to use some of it, and then focused on all aspects.
I mean, just look at Royce vs Hughes & Hughes vs GSP 2. But, then again, Serra whomped GSP. However, that's a learning experience for him.
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Hughes: I have 2 or 3 fights left in me
