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Old 10-01-2007, 06:12 PM   #11 (permalink)
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it's not that Rashad was dominating, but he was starting to turn up the heat on Ortiz IMO. Rashad missed a few takedowns that he could have had and a couple were stopped by Ortiz because he was grabbing the fence. If Rashad had gotten it to the ground, I think the scoring would have been different. Rashad took Ortiz down at the very end of the 3rd as well and looked to be gaining confidence against Ortiz. So, had it gone another round, I think Rashad would have won the fight.
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I wasn't too keen about the rematch anyway. Rashad continue building his career without fighting Tito again. Bonnar,Sinosic, Alexander, Bisping and maybe Forrest could fight him.
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Who was winning, or who would win the rematch is irrelevent. If the UFC don't want to market Rashad and let him go eventually, it doesn't matter if he beats Ortiz or not. Similarly, if the UFC wants Rashad to succeed, he'll get bigger fights.

As it stands, Ortiz is still a big name and a draw - so he's used to rescue a lackluster card. Rashad will get a big name again soon enough - or not. None of that has to do with a rematch with Ortiz though.
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I wasn't too keen about the rematch anyway. Rashada continue building his career without fighting Tito again. Bonnar,Sinosic, Alexander, Bisping and maybe Forrest could fight him.
Would you seriously put one fighter you named besides Forest at or above Tito's level?? Are you trying to state that going from fighting Tito to fighting Bispling isnt a step down???
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Tito/Rashad II? No I wouldn't let you pay me to watch that, not interesting at all. Its already been 6 years since they fought and it has lost all of its hype now, had their rematch been at UFN or something, then yeah the rematch would be justified. I dont understand why either, neither of them were injured.
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Would you seriously put one fighter you named besides Forest at or above Tito's level?? Are you trying to state that going from fighting Tito to fighting Bispling isnt a step down???
I'm just saying we don't need to see another Tito and Rashad fight again since there plenty of possible matchup for Evans. It's not a stepdown fighting Bisping since he's on a streak, who has Tito beaten lately besides a middle aged Ken Shamrock?
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Sadly.. I just don't care for Rashad Evans or Tito Ortiz.
Tito Ortiz always talks a mean game, but doesn't come through.

Give Tito Ortiz to either Dan, Wandy, or Shogun. He's boring as hell, but he is a big name so he should make himself useful and get the beating he's bound to recieve.
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I'm just saying we don't need to see another Tito and Rashad fight again since there plenty of possible matchup for Evans. It's not a stepdown fighting Bisping since he's on a streak, who has Tito beaten lately besides a middle aged Ken Shamrock?
Bispling is not on a "Streak" he just got his ass handed to him by Hamill regardless of who got the win, besides Bispling definatly has some unfinished buissiness and that is one rematch I DO want to see.

Tito may not have beaten anybody of any relevancy in a long time but he still is a former champ and it still means more than a second rate TUF alum,

If Tito gets Wandy or Hendo the only way to keep it even is if Rashad gets the other, go with Tito/Wandy and Rashad/Hendo that I can live with I just think its bullshit that Tito keeps getting to go back up the card just for being Tito.
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Great post by the OP, and I agree completely. Both guys had their shot, and proved that at this stage in their career they're both too closely matched. The fight wasn't interesting, and as the OP said, they're not entitled to a rematch. Griffin and Bonnar got a rematch because the first one was so cool, but that shouldn't be the standard for every close fight. Excellent thread.
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In all honesty I wouldnt want to see this fight again. But if they did schedule it I wouldnt stay away from it. Possibly due to the fact of the mouthing off they do to each other.
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