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Old 10-06-2007, 05:57 AM   #41 (permalink)
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I don't like or dislike him, I just think it's odd you are rating a guy who won one fight this year above a guy who has won 3 and recently knocked him the **** out.
Because I think Jardine has had better competition, it's a legitimate question and I dont pretend everyone will agree its just how I feel till I see Alexander beat some other top fighters in the UFC.

P.S. whats your top 20 in that weight class.
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Old 10-06-2007, 06:00 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Because I think Jardine has had better competition, it's a legitimate question and I dont pretend everyone will agree its just how I feel till I see Alexander beat some other top fighters in the UFC.
You appear to be ignoring the fact that they fought each other really, really recently and one of them got brutally raped in the fight. Keith beating a sloppy Liddell undecisevely doesn't just automatically shoot him up above someone who absolutely destroyed him.
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You appear to be ignoring the fact that they fought each other really, really recently and one of them got brutally raped in the fight. Keith beating a sloppy Liddell undecisevely doesn't just automatically shoot him up above someone who absolutely destroyed him.
BAH, it was a bit closer than that in reality. I seem to remember Alexander almost got himself KO'd in the first 10 seconds of the fight. I would love to see them fight again, I dont see Jardine losing a second time.
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Old 10-06-2007, 06:14 AM   #44 (permalink)
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BAH, it was a bit closer than that in reality. I seem to remember Alexander almost got himself KO'd in the first 10 seconds of the fight. I would love to see them fight again, I dont see Jardine losing a second time.
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Sorry dude, but no not at all. Sorry to make you watch this cos you are obviously a jardine fan, but seriously. Beatdown of the year so far, for sure.
Watch Alexanders foot after he thorws that leg kick. He wasn't almost KO'd at all.
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Old 10-06-2007, 06:21 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Well let'see Alexander beat Jardine who beat Forrest who beat Shogun.
are you serious ? you cant use that kind of tactics to say ho is better. there are a lot of styles involved. some styles dont work well/works well agianst some styles of fighting....
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are you serious ? you cant use that kind of tactics to say ho is better. there are a lot of styles involved. some styles dont work well/works well agianst some styles of fighting....
ITS RANKINGS! God damn, its not people saying "Wel x beat y, y beat z so therefore x beats z." If someone beats someone, that means they are ranked higher. So Forrest beat Shogun, hes ranked higher. Jardine beat Forrest, so he gets ranked higher than Forrest. That doesn't mean anyone is saying Jardine can beat Shogun, he just logically has to be ranked higher.
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beat Tsuyoshi Kosaka who beat Fedor.
naaaah a cut wasnt it ? but i see your point and agree totally
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naaaah a cut wasnt it ? but i see your point and agree totally
Yeah it was a cut from an illegal blow, but they had to have a winner so they just called it a cut stoppage. Still a loss on the record.
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BAH, it was a bit closer than that in reality. I seem to remember Alexander almost got himself KO'd in the first 10 seconds of the fight. I would love to see them fight again, I dont see Jardine losing a second time.
i would love to see them fight again as well but regarding your argument about keith "almost" KO'ing Houston.....horseshoes and hand grenades.

fact is keith got his ass kicked the first time, he understimated Houston and paid the price, it was his own fault.

maybe next time they fight he can survive more than one round and actually challenge Houston, then again maybe not.
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Im not making excuses for Jardine's lose I simply think next time they fight if they fight he will win. You can give all the bullshit excuses you want for Liddell but he didn’t look out of shape or unprepared he was just beat point blank. I put way more credit in that win than the Alexander loss.

As far as the Liddell fight being unconvincing I dont know if your blind or not but you must have some kind of vision problem because the Liddell fight was a convincing win. I dont know anyone who thinks Liddell won that fight or even came close but thats not taking anything away from Chuck he's still a good fighter.

Jardine DID rock alexander in the first 10 seconds of that fight. It was close in the sense that it could have very well been Jardine walking out of the ring with a KO. I dont think he was out matched at all, he just got beat.

You trying to discredit him beating Liddell by saying it means nothing because rampage did it and that must mean chucks washed up and cant fight anymore is silly, Chuck is still one of the best strikers in the game. Give Keith his due, he got beat by a striker leaned his lesson came back and beat a much more dangerous striker in Liddell, and that’s why he's at the top of my list.
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