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Old 10-05-2007, 01:29 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Im glad to see this cuz I like Sherk but lie detector tests are honestly way outdated and shouldn't ever be used in any legal cases at all. There's tons of resources out there to help with controlling the heart rate.
This isn't a legal case.
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:30 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I don't think this was asked for by commision, but hopefully it helps.
There was an article in men's health recently about the over the counter suppliment producers adding low levels of steroids to their products. Apperantly they really want their customer's to see results and keep buying the suppliments.
If you saw all access Sean Sherk he was taking dozens of suppliment pills everyday. I think xience was sponsering him, and I beleive it was implied in the article that even reputable over the counter suppliments were "dirty" with steroids.
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:32 PM   #13 (permalink)
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This isn't a legal case.
It falls under the same situation he was referring too though and despite it not having a judge and the makings of a traditional court room it could be considered a legal case.
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:35 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I thought it wasn't to do with heart rate because people get nervous when taking a lie detector test anyway...
It measures breathing, heart rate, pulse, all shit that can be trained for.
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It falls under the same situation he was referring too though and despite it not having a judge and the makings of a traditional court room it could be considered a legal case.
It is in no way, shape, or form a legal case.

It is also a completely different situation, since the commission is under no obligation to prove anything 'beyond a shadow of a doubt.' There is no independent jury. They could take Sherk's license away for no reason as easily as they could take it away for a valid reason. They could take Sherk's license away even if he was able to prove his innocence beyond a shadow of a doubt.
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:43 PM   #16 (permalink)
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It is in no way, shape, or form a legal case.

It is also a completely different situation, since the commission is under no obligation to prove anything 'beyond a shadow of a doubt.' There is no independent jury. They could take Sherk's license away for no reason as easily as they could take it away for a valid reason. They could take Sherk's license away even if he was able to prove his innocence beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Well then I retract the term "legal case". Jesus completely irrelevant dude and obviously not my point. A lie detector test should not be used as evidence for ANYTHING.
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:45 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I'll wait until his trial date until I believe he is innocent.
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Well then I retract the term "legal case". Jesus completely irrelevant dude and obviously not my point.
It was quite relevant to the discussion GMW and I were having.

Also, I have to ask. If it was completely irrelevant to your point, why'd you bring it up?


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hey dude ya i agree its not what you were trying to say at all but dont give up your point some people just talk without any concept of what they speak about

legal- n.

1. One that is in accord with certain rules or laws.

it is not nessessary that you call something legal or illegal in terms of government law.

the commission who dictates "any fighter caught fighting with the use of illegal substances is subject to punishment" is stating a legal term.
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It was quite relevant to the discussion GMW and I were having.

Also, I have to ask. If it was completely irrelevant to your point, why'd you bring it up?
Im not qualified to speak for him but I dont think he meant legal case as in American judicial system court review legal case or whatever its called.
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