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hey dude ya i agree its not what you were trying to say at all but dont give up your point some people just talk without any concept of what they speak about
legal- n.
1. One that is in accord with certain rules or laws.
it is not nessessary that you call something legal or illegal in terms of government law.
the commission who dictates "any fighter caught fighting with the use of illegal substances is subject to punishment" is stating a legal term.
Dont even bother, jasvll will argue his heart out about the term "legal case" and what he meant about saying this wasn't one like that actually matters.
Again my point here is that a lie detector test should not be used as evidence. Anyone can train to beat them.
its true lies arent just the sum of an individuals reactions to the nervous system you can say something and appear inside and out to be telling the truth.
but i guess at the very least its something to support him
Youre being a nitpicker, and contributing to the discussion none.
Opinion duly note. Great contribution, by the way.
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Should lie detectors be used as evidence in this situation?
If the commission sees fit to admit nandrolone metabolite detection as evidence of banned substance violation, which is itself a controversial test, I see no reason why they shouldn't admit another controversial test as evidence to the contrary.
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but I dont think he meant legal case as in American judicial system court review legal case or whatever its called.
What do you think he meant?
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hey dude ya i agree its not what you were trying to say at all but dont give up your point some people just talk without any concept of what they speak about
legal- n.
1. One that is in accord with certain rules or laws.
Let's play the definition game:
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le·gal /ˈligəl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[lee-guhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –adjective 1.permitted by law; lawful: Such acts are not legal. 2.of or pertaining to law; connected with the law or its administration: the legal profession. 3.appointed, established, or authorized by law; deriving authority from law. 4.recognized by law rather than by equity. 5.of, pertaining to, or characteristic of the profession of law or of lawyers: a legal mind. 6.Theology. a.of or pertaining to the Mosaic Law. b.of or pertaining to the doctrine that salvation is gained by good works rather than through free grace. –noun 7.a person who acts in a legal manner or with legal authority. 8.an alien who has entered a country legally. 9.a person whose status is protected by law. 10.a fish or game animal, within specified size or weight limitations, that the law allows to be caught and kept during an appropriate season. 11.a foreigner who conducts espionage against a host country while working there in a legitimate capacity, often in the diplomatic service. 12.legals, authorized investments that may be made by fiduciaries, as savings banks or trustees.
it is not nessessary that you call something legal or illegal in terms of government law.
The commission is a regulatory body. If a fighter is called to a disciplinary hearing by them, he has none of the rights afforded him by law (right to attorney, due process, etc.) His guilt does not have to be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, technically, it doesn't have to be proven at all. In other words, just because lie detector results aren't admissable under the strict rule of law, doesn't inherently make them meaningless in other contexts.
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the commission who dictates "any fighter caught fighting with the use of illegal substances is subject to punishment" is stating a legal term.
First, where is your quote from? Second, if Sherk had tested positive for Benadryl, he would still be getting a punishment from the commission. Sherk is accused of violating the terms of his license agreement. That's it. It's not about legal or illegal actions.
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That longing to return to the retarded past can only be born of some collective, subconscious, internal desire to try to turn back the clock on humanity and halt our obvious progression towards the inevitable zombie apocalypse of 2012.
would the penn/stevenson match be for an interm-lightweight belt? in which case sherk would be given a chance to fight for the title probably the first fight back or if he loses does he also lose the title and so the fight is just a light weight belt, or is there even a difference between the belts other then its a fight out of the regular order?
im not going to discuss etimology in depth with you other then to say that the current use of language is just as important as other definitions of it. i took my definition from dicitonary.com just like you did. there is 10 different definitions at the least and ya most are in paradigm of civil, criminal law but that doesnt matter because its not the only commonal useage of the word.
something can be legal or illegal within an oranization and if such a claim is made, like "we ban such as substance" etc then it is a legal statement at the very least for the inner workings of that company.
im not going to discuss etimology in depth with you other then to say that the current use of language is just as important as other definitions of it. i took my definition from dicitonary.com just like you did. there is 10 different definitions at the least and ya most are in paradigm of civil, criminal law but that doesnt matter because its not the only commonal useage of the word.
something can be legal or illegal within an oranization and if such a claim is made, like "we ban such as substance" etc then it is a legal statement at the very least for the inner workings of that company.
The rules defining what is 'legal' and 'illegal' for that specific company would have no bearing on what should or shouldn't be 'legal' for any other company, government, or other institution. In other words, saying *lie detector tests should never be used in a legal case* is meaningless in both contexts. On the one hand we're talking about any of an infinite number of legal contexts, each different from the next. On the other hand, we're talking about the traditional context, which clearly doesn't apply to the commission hearings.
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Sherk passes lie detector test about steroids
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