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Old 10-12-2007, 01:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Personally I dont think the top guys are so bad. I do think sometimes the guys theyre fighting should be payed something that at least is closer to that.
I guarantee you that today's top guys had it worse when they were starting out and there's no reason to believe that the bottom carders in the future won't be better off than today's current bottom rung. People seem to forget that pay across the board has only increased and that almost every UFC fighter is fully sponsored.

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Paying Chuck that much and Jardine so little really shows that they thought Chuck would run through him.
I think it was a reflection of Jardine's current position in the UFC. He was a loser on the Ultimate Fighter with one notable win and was coming off a spectacular loss. He hadn't earned a chance to fight one of the top guys and his pay reflected that. Imagine what a win over Chuck Liddell will do for his next paycheck.

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Also I think lower card fighters shouldnt get any less then around 10k. Making 3k off a fight and then not even knowing if youll get another fight again kind of sucks. Although I do think if youre a top draw for a ppv like Randy you should be getting a piece of what that ppv brings in.
I think the fighters should get good agents and seek out the best deal regardless of organization. If they do that, fighter pay will take care of itself.
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Old 10-12-2007, 01:41 PM   #12 (permalink)
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If you were referring to me. I didn't say that Jardine should have got half a mill. I'm talkin at least 50 grand. The dude just beat Chuck ****in Liddell at his own game. How can he only have earned 13 grand? He was one of the lowest paid fighters on the card, yet he beat Liddell, and was the main event.
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Old 10-12-2007, 01:43 PM   #13 (permalink)
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If Couture made $50,000 (made up) for his first fight with Chuck, then Stanley Johnson (8-0 and made up) on his UFC debut would inherit Couture's credentials and popularity while he fights Jose Damingo (7-1 and fake as hell) who will also have the same deal.

Or if Chuck makes $300,000 to lose to Jardine who makes $14,000 to win, before the fight Jardine will inherit Chuck's credentials and popularity, no contracts - just a straight inheritance.

Also, If Organization A pays more than Org B, then the people who run Org B are baaad baad people.
I'm sorry, but that's a financial disaster.

Yes, Jardine beat Liddell, but do you think for a second that The Dean of Mean will now sell PPV's on the same level as the Iceman?
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Old 10-12-2007, 01:47 PM   #14 (permalink)
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MATT WIMAN had a higher base salary for his fight than Keith Jardine.

Hopefully Jardine got at least a small cut of the pay per view buys. I mean, how can Wiman be making more than Jardine? I just refuse to believe it. It can't be true.
There has to be a lot more undisclosed amounts of money being distributed to the fighters.
Wiman's pay is higher because he came into the UFC the hard way, has had more UFC fights, and was on the comeback show of the UF, which featured higher post-show base contracts than the other UF seasons. Also, he may have a better agent.

It might be a good idea to compare the payout of Jardine's next fight with Wiman's.
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Wiman's pay is higher because he came into the UFC the hard way, has had more UFC fights, and was on the comeback show of the UF, which featured higher post-show base contracts than the other UF seasons. Also, he may have a better agent.

It might be a good idea to compare the payout of Jardine's next fight with Wiman's.

Wasn't Wiman on Tuf 5? And i don't think hes had that many fights in the UFC. I know he got tooled by Fisher, before TUF. Thats all i remember, though.
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I'm sorry, but that's a financial disaster.

Yes, Jardine beat Liddell, but do you think for a second that The Dean of Mean will now sell PPV's on the same level as the Iceman?
My whole post was trying to answer your question on what someone might base a reasonable fighter pay on. So I tried to grab some POV's of someone who might think the fight pay isn't good (the side I think you were referring to, and I also chose it because it's funny). I'm re-reading my previous post now and can see how you missed the sarcasm.

I don't see anything wrong with the fighter pay, especially the Jardine deal. As of right now, for Mr. Dean to sell ppv's and make money the way Liddel is, he'd have to earn someone like Liddel or Couture's credentials and popularity. Not have it magically inherited (what I was trying to poke at in my previous post) without earning his stripes first.

Jardine has one stripe now, but didn't before the Liddel fight so I feel the $14,000 is called for if he had no stripes going in. So what I don't understand right now is - Why are people complaining? I thought fighter pay was determined before the fight? Jardine understood, why wouldn't someone else understand?
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:59 PM   #18 (permalink)
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What many people who blog on this subject forget to understand is that the fighters signed the contracts for the pay that they are receiving. So if they had a problem with it they wouldnt have signed the contract, right?
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Old 10-12-2007, 03:08 PM   #19 (permalink)
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My whole post was trying to answer your question on what someone might base a reasonable fighter pay on. So I tried to grab some POV's of someone who might think the fight pay isn't good (the side I think you were referring to, and I also chose it because it's funny). I'm re-reading my previous post now and can see how you missed the sarcasm.

I don't see anything wrong with the fighter pay, especially the Jardine deal. As of right now, for Mr. Dean to sell ppv's and make money the way Liddel is, he'd have to earn someone like Liddel or Couture's credentials and popularity. Not have it magically inherited (what I was trying to poke at in my previous post) without earning his stripes first.

Jardine has one stripe now, but didn't before the Liddel fight so I feel the $14,000 is called for if he had no stripes going in. So what I don't understand right now is - Why are people complaining? I thought fighter pay was determined before the fight? Jardine understood, why wouldn't someone else understand?
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Sidney Crosby was the best hockey player in the league since his rookie season but he had to pay his dues and play a couple years to earn the top salary.
thats not true at all, Crosby was paid that because thats the most he was allowed to make by the NHL his rookie season. It had nothing to do with paying his dues.
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