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post #61 of 67 (permalink) Old 10-19-2007, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jasvll
Yeah, but Couture is a popular fighter. The Rock is a popular entertainer. I don't see there being much crossover appeal there.
neither do i....randy got paid to be tough as nails and win fights....the rock got paid to look tough as nails...and talk ( i am not questioning the rock's athletism)

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yeah, it could be very painful for everyone involved. That includes the audience.
i wouldnt put it past them....i mean the first scorpion king....i didnt hate.....but at the sametime i dont think i wait till the end to see what happend

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I forgot about The Mummy's origins.
i never understood how a mummy goin 1 meter per minute.....could catch up to a man or woman......running at maximum potential....

must be that hollywood magic

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post #62 of 67 (permalink) Old 10-19-2007, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Fedor>all
Dana didn't do everything that Fedor asked. Fedor is very proud of his nationality and Dana knows Fedor's status on the world Sambo scene yet wouldn't let Fedor sign as a result the upcoming Sambo World Championships.
Everyones got a nationality, everyones proud, so what, business is business if you cant get outta your blessed nation and be a man about it thn why fight? Fedor had an excuse for everything and acts like hes the only one who ever had to deal with that situation, others have signed and never whined.poor example of manhood on his part.

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Fedor didn't want exclusivity with one company and I understand why Dana didn't approve of that, but personally I think if anything this was the least relevant request Fedor made.
Also the most ridiculous, how can someone promote you and not worry about another promoter crossing over on you, Fedor knows nothing about business to even ask is again looking for a way out, like a fighter looking for a way out, he did the same business wise, he put himself in a business arm-bar.

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Finally, Fedor wanted some of the fighters in his camp to be signed as well. Personally, I don't think anything is wrong with looking out for your camp and I personally have NO problem watching Roman Zentsov and Aleks KOing fools in the octagon. Dana didn't want to give in, but really I doubt those fighters would have been acquired for THAT much cash.
He wants to much, the deal is about him, not his friends, or his family, or his cousin guido who use to wrestle in russian high school, its about HIM, and him only, I would told him no as well.

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For starters, why the hell would Randy take part in negotiations with Fedor? He's a fighter, and he doesn't deal with the UFC's business, that's Dana White and the management's job. I think Randy is a little egocentric to consider Fedor his last real challenge in MMA because I sincerely think Nog and a few others would tool him.
If hes that interested in wanting that fight, hes the poster boy, he has a voice, let it be known, he didnt, period.
I guess Randy would know better than me or you what he considrs a challenge, and I don't think nog would do anything to Randy but be a victim, of course we wont find out cause hes to busy stepping to the stars.

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Also, you're crazy if you think that The Scorpion King won't make a splash at the box office.
wooohhoooo Im nutty as hell, I have no doubt it will be a bomb.

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The original film grossed $36 million in its opening week and went on to make $90 million overall. To say the movie is going to most likely be shit, is believable. To say that the movie will not make money however, is absolutely ludicrous.
This aint the original, this aint even the prequel, hell this is the "decade later, we found another sucker to put in the costume" version, gimme a break!

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post #63 of 67 (permalink) Old 10-19-2007, 05:55 PM
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Randy Couture is way to honest to be wrong ??? ...something must really be wrong in the UFC for him to do this. I hope it works out for him though


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post #64 of 67 (permalink) Old 10-19-2007, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Flak
So many opinions based on so little fact.
I'm only seeing speculation. What would you rather have. No one talking on a forum?

Right now it is he said...he said. Who do you believe and what does it mean? That is what the discussion is about. I don't see how that is wrong or invokes your "wisdom".
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Sounds like Dana White is gearing up the PR attack machines.

Anything Couture has done will be reduced to flukes anytime someone he beat is on another countdown ("Gonzaga only lost because he broke his own nose, Randy had nothing on him!" "Sylvia only lost because of the starting punch that caught him off balance, please ignore the other 4 rounds of beat down"). I also won't be surprised if Dana takes pot shots at him at every available opportunity, makes sure people don't wear Extreme Couture anymore while entering the octagon, have him show up, and etc.

Dana could've been more diplomatic after Randy left, but no, now it's escalating, and will eventually turn into name calling, and so on.

Anyhow, while Randy is away from the UFC I wouldn't be surprised if they attack him the whole time and or try to erase his accomplishments, and if he ever comes back, they'll herald him as the greatest thing since the dawn of mankind.
I think your totally wrong with this. Even with Tito, which had much more animosity, they never took away his achievements- they did stop talking about him and let him fade into the background. Which I would do the exact same thing in their shoes. If anything that will happen here.

Trying to undo what Randy did would just be foolish and imply the people who are footing their bill is stupid and gullible. Which would be us.


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post #65 of 67 (permalink) Old 10-19-2007, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by l3ft3lbow
The only thing I don't understand is how Dana can say Randy belongs to him until he fights 2 more times?? There has got to be a time limit, I mean, if there wasn't that would mean Randy wouldn't be able to fight for the rest of his life? Doesn't make sense to me.

What if he was 20 instead of 45? So he can't fight again, EVER, until he fight 2 more times in the UFC? I don't think that would hold up in court.

I'd beg to differ.

Look at the contract of any professional sports. It specifies years played; not years. A player who goes into retirement plays on his current contract if he comes back.

Now many teams will renegotiate, but they don't have to.

I've seen many posts where people have claimed Randy's contract is 4 fights or 2 years...whichever comes first. IF that is the case Randy has to wait about 19-12 months before he could sign with someone else.

If the time constraint is not in the contract his a$$ belongs to Dana until he fulfills his contract obligations.
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post #66 of 67 (permalink) Old 10-20-2007, 12:12 AM
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i think you might be right about that.. like someone stated on one of these threads i think they should be a winning purse and a losing purse.. based on match calibur.. like if its a big star in the fight.. they should make a winning purse lets say 40,000 or something and then the loser maybe 10,000 that way every fighter would need to earn thier keep.. reguardless how good you was youd still have to win the fight to get the big money..
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post #67 of 67 (permalink) Old 10-20-2007, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Nobilis
I'm only seeing speculation. What would you rather have. No one talking on a forum?
I don't confuse genuine speculation for people passing off opinion as fact, which is what i see a lot of when it comes to Randy's contract. The difference is in the context, and my comment was in response to all the Randy topics of late.

I guess im just burned out on it a little and im starting to sound cynical about it all.

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