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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 10-25-2007, 02:29 PM Thread Starter
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*******Official Sean Sherk Appeals thread********

Okay next week is going to be the moment of truth for Sean Sherk. He will be appearing before the CSAC to try to defend his positive test for Steroids.

Now to me I don't know why he filed for an extension. The tests don't lie and, IMO, he is only delaying the inevitable. The way I see it an athlete is responsible for what they put into their body. I remember he said in his recent interview, something along the lines of "I don't know if one of the supplements I was taking made me test positive" again I don't recall exactly waht it was or where I heard it but again the athlete is responsible for what they put into their body. Ignorance is no excuse.


The hearing is set I beleive for October 30th which is next Teusday and I am curious to hear what you guys think is going to happen.

I'm wondering if he actually will have some evidence to prove that he is innocent but again the tests don't lie.

If he does not win his appea;, who do you think is more deserving of a shot at the title Penn or Stevenson or should they fight to determine the next contender?

If he loses that means we now have 2 vacant UFC title and I'd like to hear who and how they should go about letting fight for it.


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Actually, from the sounds of it, Sherk may win his appeal. I won't be surprised either way. But its up in the air until the appeal is heard.

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"I don't know if one of the supplements I was taking made me test positive"
He said maybe a combination of supplements he was taking reacted together to give a false positive. Sherk's body is his temple. He isn't just a fighter, he's a dietitian and workaholic. I can almost believe him when he says he didn't take anything.

He doesn't even to bars cause of the smoke...dude is ridiculous about what goes in his body.

The testing the NSAC has is lame anyways. Testing for Nandrolone in the body is warped. Nandrolone metabolite is a naturally occurring substance in the body, but the NSAC sets a limit on what level you can test at. The level is 2ng/mL and Sherk tested at 12ng/mL.

Some athletes who have admitted to doping have tested as high as 94ng/mL. Athletic performance tests have shown it isn't unlikely to test anywhere up 10ng/mL without doping.

So maybe Sherk had a higher occurrence of naturally produced Nanrolone in his system? Who knows.

All I know is he passed his lie detector test.



Personally, I would hope he didn't do the roids. Its just bad for the sport. As for my personal opinion, I think he did it. I'm just trying to show you the testing on Nandrolone is really, really, really flawed.


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Penn definately doesn't deserve it until he gets at least another high profile win in him. I know that's not the popular answer, but it's true.
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Sherk passed his polygraph, but I remember it stating "not knowingly" took steroids. So if Sherk is proven guilty of doping, but no knowingly taking it does he keep his belt? This is an utter mess.
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If he didnt knowingly take steroids then surely if he knew he was taking something that would together produce nandrolone and have the effect of steroids that would show up on the test? Maybe not.

As for the nandrolone tests being flawed I have to say that so are the lie detector tests. I mean there not accepted anywhere as solid proof of anything as far as I know, only an aid to help find the truth. I also know that extreme stress around the subject in question can alter the results, which im sure in sherks case are a factor. There are also drugs and other substances you can take to alter the test results, e.g. things that slow heart rate and increase / decrease perspiration.
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He doesn't even to bars cause of the smoke...dude is ridiculous about what goes in his body.
Exactly, which is what punches a huge hole in his defense.

You're telling me a guy as fanatical about what goes into his body didn't bother to check to see how things react when mixed together? Not to mention that i still don't see how a mixture of vitimins, minerals, and extracts can morph into a steroid.

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Exactly, which is what punches a huge hole in his defense.

You're telling me a guy as fanatical about what goes into his body didn't bother to check to see how things react when mixed together? Not to mention that i still don't see how a mixture of vitimins, minerals, and extracts can morph into a steroid.
Im no expert, but AFAIK they dont actually test for steroids... rather, the byproducts produced by the body which are typically the result of steroid usage... Of which, the body does not make naturally.

The point being, his claim that its a 'false positive' IMHO is a misnomer...

If by some bizarre mixture of vitamins and supplements his body is able to create the same byproduct as steroid usage, then I think its a safe assumption the same enhancements effects would also result.

Hence the same punishment is justified, regardless if he took roids or the 'vitamin + supplement' equivalent.
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