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Old 11-18-2007, 03:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Interesting Bisping vs Evans stats.... also reg. point system



why is it takedowns > landing punches, especially when the takedowns don't lead to anything?

I mean sure taking someone down and then landing some good shots is worthy of points but why should a fighter win on takedowns when he doesn't do anything after that?

In the hammil and evans fights bisping got out of the takedowns without being damaged on the ground, that should count for sumut?


I think bisping needs to start taking ppl down too and using his kickboxing a bit more, as there are points to be scored here, he is pretty good on the ground defensively and I've only seen him grounding and pounding ppl when he takes them down
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Old 11-18-2007, 03:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Thats why I think bisping won the fight because he might of got taken down a couple of times but he defended the takedown so much times and even when he was on the ground he didnt take any damage at all... i think takedowns definetely get too much points and takedown defence should be equal point-wise
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Old 11-18-2007, 03:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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did bisbing really do anything standing tho? he didn't land enough good punches it seemed...

terrible fight anyway. I treat a split decision like that as a draw, cuz no one really won the fight.
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Old 11-18-2007, 03:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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lol yeh I think BOTH his fights should've been a draw if you look at it stats wise and then see the fight again

altho if you nullyfy the takedowns because they actually caused no damage and bisping broke free in his previous 2 fights from each takedown then he prolly should've sneaked a win but they really need to sort the scoring out!
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
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the fight sucked. dana said the winner of this fight would break into the top 5 but i think thiago silva should move into the top 5 and rashad and keep his punk ass where he was at
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:47 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The truth is that niether fighter did much.

The way i saw it the standup was even, Rashad landed some punches and elbows and Bisping landed some punches and knees, but niether fighter landed anything that was significant.

Rashad took him down about 5 times, regardless if Bisping stuffed anothe 5 TD attempts and was able to get back on his feet, he didn't do much in the fight.

You can argue that Rashad did nothing when he got Bisping down, which I agree with. But how does that justify Bisping winning the fight? Simply avoiding damage on your back does not score points.
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:48 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Thats why I think bisping won the fight because he might of got taken down a couple of times but he defended the takedown so much times and even when he was on the ground he didnt take any damage at all... i think takedowns definetely get too much points and takedown defence should be equal point-wise
Technically they are atm. Thats probably why it took the judges so long to finally insert there decision. I hope this is a sign that the UFC might be shifting towards Pride-land point system, where the winner is the guy that tries to finish the fight. Sure Bisping stopped several attempts in the 2nd and 3rd round, but I think Rashad out struck him, and was trying to do something offensive. I'm glad Evans won, and I'm a bigger Bisping fan than I am "Suger" fan lol
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:51 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Um have you ever been slammed on your back and had a dudes shoulder driven into your chest? Believe me it does alot of damage.
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:04 PM   #9 (permalink)
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The truth is that niether fighter did much.

The way i saw it the standup was even, Rashad landed some punches and elbows and Bisping landed some punches and knees, but niether fighter landed anything that was significant.

Rashad took him down about 5 times, regardless if Bisping stuffed anothe 5 TD attempts and was able to get back on his feet, he didn't do much in the fight.

You can argue that Rashad did nothing when he got Bisping down, which I agree with. But how does that justify Bisping winning the fight? Simply avoiding damage on your back does not score points.
I agree.
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:06 PM   #10 (permalink)
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i got edit this, it came out terrible.
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It looks pretty even. It seems 6 take downs is worth about 50 strikes.
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