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Old 06-04-2006, 09:45 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Luke for one is weak has no take down D,No knock out power for someone like Leben are you serious?

Leben beat Cote and knocked out whorehey!( )
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Leben does look sloppy on the ring. I have never like him.I just think he hasnt grown up. That just my opion.Ever time i see him in the ring i go to sleep. Hes not very entertaing. IMO
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Old 06-04-2006, 10:35 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Lol you spelled that bad

Everyone in UFC says he grew up,I say it to.
I also say hes very exciting and doesn't back down.
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Old 06-04-2006, 10:38 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Hope Leben gets destroyed. Ever since i saw him, i knew he was one of these guys that talk shit, then come fight time and they are scared. Just being a striker isnt going to get him very far in the UFC unless your name is chuck liddell
He's not just a striker he was on Team Quest.

And Liddell isn't a straight up striker he was a College wrestler first and a Purple belt in BJJ.
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Yes but you got Liddell all wrong.

And Leben isn't bad at all.
Anyway we will see how good he is against Anderson Silva.
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If you put a half decent kickboxer in Leben's fights, they all would have been KOs. Leben had plenty of opportunities to KO Cote and he didn't. Leben had a dozen opportunities to KO Fioravanti and he didn't. He got lucky that he won those fights in a decision.

Leben has proved, twice in the UFC and probably much more in the rest of his carreer, that his kicks are poorly executed and his punches are badly timed or very slow. He has endurance, that's all. If he gets a title fight he'll miss too many punches and be destroyed. If he fights a guy with a good groundnpound (of whom there are none in the middleweight division) he'll be runover.

People get blinded by his hair and bad boy mouth and so they cheer for him without looking at his stance, strikes or groundwork. He is not Tito Ortiz or Cabbage. He doesn't have a chance with a real hardstriker.
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You could have said your Liddell facts better to.

And as for Cummo,Hes terrible and hasn't beat anyone good yet.
He has no take down D hes very weak,This happens to be the first site that said he's good. I mean was i the only one that saw him fight against Jason V??? That guy is terrible he almost lost to Alex K from Season 1 and that's just sad.Even more sad that you guys think Joe can beat Leben when he couldn't even finish Jay off,And lost to Joe Stevenson.(Joe S got ass kicked by Josh Neer) He's just the all American nerd that will never come close to champion.
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Leben has proved, twice in the UFC and probably much more in the rest of his carreer, that his kicks are poorly executed and his punches are badly timed or very slow. He has endurance, that's all. If he gets a title fight he'll miss too many punches and be destroyed. If he fights a guy with a good groundnpound (of whom there are none in the middleweight division) he'll be runover.
WHo cares about his dam kicks......
"He has endurance and thats it" Umm try a chin of Iron.And knock out power that dominated Mike Swick and Rivera.


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People get blinded by his hair and bad boy mouth and so they cheer for him without looking at his stance, strikes or groundwork. He is not Tito Ortiz or Cabbage. He doesn't have a chance with a real hardstriker.

That must be why he's only lost one fight??Ya his hair and bad boy mouth i happen to think his hair is gay so are his cloths,And hate Skater Hillbillys.
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If you put a half decent kickboxer in Leben's fights, they all would have been KOs. Leben had plenty of opportunities to KO Cote and he didn't. Leben had a dozen opportunities to KO Fioravanti and he didn't. He got lucky that he won those fights in a decision.
He won 2 out of 3 rounds on Cote....Knocked out Swick and Rivera real luck huh??
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