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Old 12-09-2007, 09:18 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I thought the whole farm boy thing was a cheap, Pro-Wrestling style gimmick. And we are at least a decade past the time where it was evil to be intelligent, and simple people were the true salt of the earth crap.

IMO, he needs to earn another shot. Just being a finalist doesn't guarantee it, especially when you were so dominated within a round.

Should he be ruled out from the future though- no. And there is no guarantee that he will take his raw talent to the next levels either. many people in fighting step out of it at what seem like odd times. He should have another shot- but not based on current standing.
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Old 12-10-2007, 10:21 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I am not a fan of Tommy Spear. I believe that he is very one diminsional. He is stiff and when he does take the fight to the ground, it does not seem like he even wants to pass guard. He also is taking his "farmboy" mentality way to far. Is it cool to be a farmboy now? TUF 6 did not have the best talent. Tommy Spear in my opinion was not very deserving to be fighting for the TUF 6 Championship. He is very boring. But the UFC is going to have to bring him back. Is anyone else very upset that one diminsional boring stiff farmboy Tommy Spear is going to be sticking around the UFC for a while?
I'm wondering if he is trying to be cool because he is a farm boy. Really all this griping about farm boys is ignorant. Half the guys complaining about the farm boy thing are not man enough to do half the work of a "farmboy". I applaud anyone that farms whether it is for themselves, or for sale to consumers across the country/world. unless of course you do all of your own food raising
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Old 12-10-2007, 02:47 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I never saw Tommy's mentality as a gimmick. THAT IS HOW HIS FAMILY MAKES THEIR MONEY. If you have ever worked a day in your life on a farm you know it is a tough life. You don't lift weights to get bigger, you lift weight to pay the bills. Tommy showed nothing but heart in his fights. If he is so one dimensional then why didn't George school him? I do agree that he needs to go to a camp to be a force in the UFC.

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I got a little confused when he said that he did all his training on the farm. Did he really prepare for his fight with Mac Danzing just training on the farm? I think the kids got talent and huge potential but he's going to have to take it to the next level and leave the farm and dedicate his time to training in a real gym.
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He's been training with Matt Hughes... not solely on the farm. I think, until he becomes a more diversified fighter, he belongs back in the WEC. I think it's just too soon for him to be diving in with the current mob of talent in the UFC WW division.
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I got a little confused when he said that he did all his training on the farm. Did he really prepare for his fight with Mac Danzing just training on the farm? I think the kids got talent and huge potential but he's going to have to take it to the next level and leave the farm and dedicate his time to training in a real gym.
I don't think he did all of his training on the farm, there's a video on Hughes website where you can see tommy playing basketball with him, so he was at least with Hughes at some point and I would hope it was to train, not just play a pick up game a bball.
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I think Tommy just needs to focus on his bjj game. He reminds me of a young Matt Hughes but with better striking.
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Tommy could have one hell of a future just has 2 work on his ground game keep training with hughes (even tho i dont like him) they have the same still and mind sets. he has a truly bright future if with the right ppl
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He has some of the attributes that Matt Hughes had when he started, but he doesn't remind me of Matt Hughes. Matt always seemed a lot more natural in the cage than Tommy does. You can tell that some guys are fighters, and Tommy just doesn't seem like one of those guys.

Plus, when he actually moves into the UFC, he'll be facing guys who are much closer to his size and strength than the guys on TUF (aside from Billy Miles, but he's pretty useless in himself). I think that's going to shock him, and lead to some early struggles when he realizes that he can't just power out of everything.
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Old 12-10-2007, 06:42 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Freight trains get derailed and that was his mentality with Mac influenced by Hughes. I think he could have been better rounded having trained with Serra. The days of solely relying on strenghth and GnP are over. The guys that are training today know the variety of skills you have to bring to the mat to win. Does he have a good start sure but it takes more. Plus his only real motivation is paying off the farm. Most fighters say its the belt/championship. Tommy is still way too early to tell but as already stated is a camp or 2 or 3.
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