[All_In_GSP]

I see what you guys are talking about. It's legal, obviously, but Dan did seem to be doing it excessively. The last time I remember seeing it - aka when it was blatant enough to really notice, was when Hughes was about to start pummeling BJ in the rematch. I'm not sure the exact rule set but it did seem a little much. It didn't affect the outcome so I won't lose sleep over it...

[Apecity]

Originally Posted by ToeZup

Anyone notice Dan Henderson's suffocation tactics?
Yeah I know it's not illeagal but come on.
That seemed to be a little harsh imo. What do you guys think?

Harsh? You would rather someone elbow you in the face, or choke you out? Dan made it obvious with his hand, but fighters always do this with their forearms, chest...anything to cover the mouth, put pressure on the chest, and disrupt your opponents breathing. It is part of ground game.

Originally Posted by WhoopDatAzz

I feel that it should be illegal to use suffocations tactics in the UFC,because,it is not part of fighting. They should do something to change that. Dana White, should do something to change that. Its cheap, uncalled for, and not a real fighting move. Fight fair, this isn't wwe where you can poke guys in the eyes, and give'em low blows. Submission should be allowed, but not Suffocation Tactics. Thats how i feel. MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO USE

At what point are they disrupting breathing, and at what point are they going for a submission? You are basically advocating the elimination of choke out submissions, since that is "not part of fighting", according to you. I am really not sure what kind of MMA matches you watch, but when 2 fighters are on the mat it would be impossible to tell whether a fighter was intentionally "disrupting breathing". It is just so open ended. If i were to press my hand on yer forhead, and my forarm "just happens" to be over your mouth, disrupting breathing, would that be illegal? Dan made it obvious, that's all. Not that fighters every try to hide it, it just doesn't often look that blatant.

Originally Posted by TheNegation

Lol, placing your hand over someones mouth to disrupt their breathing is cheap? How? How in any way is that not a legit move.

Yes, disupting someones breathing should be disallowed, however choking them unconscious is fine.

Exactly.

[taadland]

Originally Posted by burton_o6

Bj does it..Even though I think its a little cheap, its a part of the game.

well yes a lot of fighters do it, actually hughes was doing it to bj worse than i've seen bj do it. but hendo was doing it worse than i have ever witnessed before. my thing with the hand on the mouth is that the fingers are very close to the eyes, dan however was doing it legally and the rasta ref herb was ontop of things. the thing about when dan was covering anderson's mouth and i've said this a couple times now, hendo seemed more concerned with doing that rather than improving his position. i guess it didn't really matter in the end, cause the only one gasping for air was hollywood.

[taadland]

[quote=BrutalKO;483936 After seeing how Cro-Cop destroyed Herring over in Pride, then Kongo taking Cro-Cop apart, one would think Kongo would have done the same.[/QUOTE]

not exactly....cro cops mind was out of this world when he was getting beat by kongo, still feeling the cobwebs from the gonzaga fight. and heath really needed this win, and by all acounts kongo is still figuring everthing out. if you knew anything about everything you would probably lean for herring. although i will say i was shocked by the number of takedowns kongo went for.

[ToeZup]

Apecity.....come on bro....Dan was practically trying to suffocate Silva.
All i'm saying is blaitently trying to suffocate someone like that is crazy.
I understand disrupting breathing is part of the game..... you know what we are talking about man.

[Apecity]

Originally Posted by ToeZup

Apecity.....come on bro....Dan was practically trying to suffocate Silva.
All i'm saying is blaitently trying to suffocate someone like that is crazy.
I understand disrupting breathing is part of the game..... you know what we are talking about man.

Well the thing is he could still breathe through his nose fine, as you are not allowed to stick fingers in those nose (not that mosr fighters would want to! ).

I guess what I am trying to say is that it looks alot worse than it really is. Most fighters do it to some degree and what dan was doing looked bad, but was probably not rly even a concern of silvas.

[Apecity]

Originally Posted by WhoopDatAzz

Well you would know it if i put my hand over your mouth, and had my knee on your stomach. Thats how. It was so obvious that that is what happened. It was cheap. If their going to allow that, why not allow everything. Fighters should not be able to suffocate someone, are they trying to kill that person or something? This isn't a gladiator sport, its mma. And mma isn't supposed to be about how brutal you possibly can be. Its a ******* sport. ITS OBVIOUS WHEN I DISRUPPT YOUR BREATHING, MORON. Quite making excuses.

It isn't an excuse, and if you knew anything at all about MMA (and maybe you would if you speant more time watching it than tossing around childish insults) you would know Anderson Silva was never in the SLIGHTEST danger of suffocating at all.

You do realize you have a little thing called a nose to breathe with right?

I...I don't even know what to say to you...you are scared because fighters are having their mouths covered (leaving their nose free to breathe, which is what a trained athlete uses for inhaling anyways)...but you are not scared of fighters being choked out and suffering brain damage?

If you are that dense I cannot help you.