[Shogun]

With Chuck going down for UFC85, UFC84 card is looking even more stacked than ever. I'm no historian, but on paper this looks like one of the most stacked cards for any UFC event I can remember. We need every card to be like this one. Hopefully the fights live up to their promise.

My predictions on the fights I'm most interested in:

Penn/Sherk: Winner Penn . I see Sherk as a smaller Matt Hughes so I expect a similar battle. BJ should have his cardio now and Sherk is going to miss his juice so I'm going with BJ.

Wanderlei/Jardine: Winner Wanderlei. I expect Jardine to try to do leg kicks to keep Wandi away from him like he did to Chuck. Wanderlei will catch him though as he'll risk getting hit when he goes in. It'll work as Jardine doesn't have the power Chuck has. Silva by KO.

Tito/Machida: Winner Tito. I'm the least sure about this one but I see Tito using his size and strength to hold Machida down, controlling him, and getting the decision and handing Machida his first loss.

[tripster]

Originally Posted by davidm724

I'm no expert on steroids, but it seems like even though they increase strength, they'd sorta sap your cardio. I guess I'd have to do some research, but what do you guys think? Plus, if you've got more adrenaline pumping, it seems like you'd gas sooner. You ever been in a stressful situation where you had to endure something physically, such as in a fight? If you can't control your nerves and your adrenaline is pumping, you gas out in no time. Then again, I'm not an "elite" athlete, nor are the friends of mine with similar experiences. My point is that I just don't believe steroids are the reason Sherk's cardio is so great. I do believe he juiced, but I also believe the dude's work ethic is insane.

Steroids improve every aspect of your conditioning. They make you stronger, faster, think sharper and quicker, more confident, etc. You won't gas out quicker because you're on the juice. If you are a person who tends to gas out because you are nervous and waste energy, you'll be the same on the juice. One thing for certain, steroids is cheating and they definately helped Sherk get where he's at. That said, you do make a good point that he has an insane work ethic. Even on the juice, you don;t get in shape like he was without some crazy ass workouts.

[tripster]

Nice card. I really enjoy watching Penn fight and I'm picking him to win. He's just so good at what he does and has so much natural talent. BJ, Silva, GSP are three fighters that fall into that category. As long as he comes in prepared both physically and mentally (like his last fight against Big Daddy) he won't loose.

Jardine and Silva - man I'm not sure about this one. I really can't get a read on Jardine. My gut feeling is that he is not that good and got lucky vs Liddell with Liddell coming in unprepared. Silva is good but I'm not sure he has had enough time to get environmentalized yet - Moving to California with his whole family and all, he may be having family problems, who knows. His training may also not be up to par yet. This one is a tough call but I'll go with Silva.

Tito and Machida - I hope Machida beats his pansie ass. Sorry guys, I just don;t like Tito. Don;t be offended and don't give me crap over it, I just don;t like him and I hope he takes a beating. Then again, he doesn't take beatings because he usually taps before his face gets banged up. I think he wants to be in the movies or something.

The other fight I'm looking forward to is Thiago and antonio Mendez. Thiago, man, he's going to make his mark in the LH's. He's got great skills and he's aggressive.

[Tiago Rohrsetze]

cmom.. they should put rashad back to thiago... and get another fight on the 85 main card... I wanted to see Rashad get killed by thiago so much

[RushFan]

Originally Posted by WhoopDatAzz

What is the main event going to be for the UFC 85 Card now? Does anybody know? Should be interesting to see, who Lidell is going to be replaced by, or is Rashad even fighting on the UFC 85 card now that Lidell is out? Evans vs Brock Lesnar? That would be awesome to watch, hell yeah!!!!!!!!

Evans = LHW
Lesnar = HW
Lets make an attempt to know what we are talking about.

[RushFan]

Originally Posted by WhoopDatAzz

Lesnar could drop the weight, couldn't he Rushfan? Yes he could, we are learning aren't we rushfan, yes we are. He could drop weight, and face Evans. What is your problem man? Everytime I say anything on here, you're on top of it like flies on shit. Don't you have anything better to do besides pick apart every word I say on here or what? Lighten up!

On the UFC website Lesnar's weight is listed as 265 pounds / 120 kg. This doesnt surprise, He is a massive man. But hey, You might be right WhoopDat, he may be able to lose 60 pounds.
Which leg do you recommend they amputate? His Left or Right?

[Pyros]

The only one being an idiot is you, it's quite obvious that Brock is massive, hell he has to cut weight to make 265, there is no way in hell he can cut to 205, so stop insulting other people, when on top of that they are right and you aren't, it makes you look like a moron.

[davidm724]

Originally Posted by tripster

Steroids improve every aspect of your conditioning. They make you stronger, faster, think sharper and quicker, more confident, etc. You won't gas out quicker because you're on the juice. If you are a person who tends to gas out because you are nervous and waste energy, you'll be the same on the juice. One thing for certain, steroids is cheating and they definately helped Sherk get where he's at. That said, you do make a good point that he has an insane work ethic. Even on the juice, you don;t get in shape like he was without some crazy ass workouts.

Jeez, WhoopDat got banned? Where, oh where did he go wrong?

Anyway, thanks for enlightening me on the steroids subject. I was always under the impression they didn't help with cardio. I have been pulling for BJ from the start. I'm sure Sherk is no going to get popped for 'roids again in the future, but once a fighter gets popped, they're a cheater in my book. However, I have to respect Sherk's work ethic. Roids or not, the dude is pretty diligent.

[danielst1981]

I think its a shame that alot of people are against fighters like Matt Hughes and Tito these days, I have been watchin UFC since UFC 1 and without guys like Ortiz and Hughes the UFC would have never been as big as boxing, I know ZUFFA had a big part in UFC's growth but a business doesnt grow without marketing ie fighters, i want to see guys like Tito and Matt Hughes win, because without them, there wouldnt be a main stream ufc........... anyone seen my soapbox ?

[swpthleg]

I think that with that book A Fighter's Heart coming out (in paperback), hopefully ppl will read that and become familiar with less famous but just as worthy fighters and that will help to raise the profile of MMA. I enjoyed this book immensely. the author said at the postscript that he was surprised to see a lot of women liked the book, well we are just as interested in reading about determination and hard work paying off as men are.