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**Fatman2fighter** · 05-23-2008, 06:39 PM

My only complaint is that every UFC card should look like this. These are fighters that deserve to be on a PPV card. I love tuf and the ufc nights on spike but the undercards of most shows that you don't see are as good as the 3 or 4 first fights of the PPV's. It has been reminding me of the old WWF days when I was a kid.

Remember when a hand full of stars would all beat up heals (nobodies) for the whole show then at the end they would put 2 decent wrestlers up against each other. LOL if they are going to water down the cards at least show me all the fights. I for one would have no problem watching 10 fights and if they want they can even charge me an extra 10 bucks to watch them. But at least give me 3 fights of solid guys so there are no running man v.s. rock um sock um robot fights.

Kalib took a lot of flack but I think it has to do with dana and zuffa putting out a cheaper product. The UFC owns PRIDE and WEC you can't tell me between the three they can't do better then what they have been giving us. It's weird but the last 3 cards I was thinking about not ordering and I order everything. Then this card came and I was like WOW I am going to get me money worth on this one and I started thinking about the crap we have been fed lately. With the exception of the Starnes fight I will say the Montreal Card was great but I am a bias canadian as well.

Wow what a fricken rant sorry.

GO TITO, GO SHEIRK and GO SILVA

Suizida · 05-23-2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Finisher

Here are my final predictions!

Tito Ortiz vs Lyoto Machida- This is my fight of the night. Tito is my favorite fighter, and he needs a win badly.

Lyoto Machida is undefeated. He has beaten Stephan Bonnar,Sokokodju, Rich Franklin and BJ Penn ( very contreversial, and BJ was fighting 2 weight classes up). He has a unique style with his karate. HE has excellent BJJ and is a very smart fighter. If he is going to beat Tito; he's going to need to have the same stratagy he had vs Sokokajudu.

Lyoto Machida has never fought a fighter as big and strong as Tito though. Tito is going to out muscle MAchida and take him down and make him eat elbows. I think Tito will eventually get the referee stoppage in the 2nd or 3rd round. Tito has something to prove. And he is healthy. A motivated and healthy Tito is very very dangerous.

Gotta disagree with you on this one. As you said he's gotta fight like he did against sodjoukou. If he gets caught taken down his gonna sweep, and thats one thing that Machida is simply awesome at did it against Hoger and sodjokou with ease.

If feeds into his own ego he's already lost simply on the quote "I feel i have better stand up then him". Last time he said that he stood agaisnt Chuck Liddell in UFC 47, and that was just devestating. Not to say that Machida is going to knock him out, but he would pick him apart.

Machida's distance against his opponents is also one of the key factors in this fight. As we all know, his elusiveness and his ability to kick/punch and move is just to quick for his opponents. From what I've seen Tito likes to shoot in for takedowns and doesn't utilize the clinch for his takedowns (enough). How did Sodjokou get Machida down? Clinch and a sweep. Machida's TDD + his distance = a very angry TITO ORTIZ.

Not to mention, Machida's a BJJ black belt so even if he does get on his back, he cause problems for tito. + I reckon as of now Sodjokou is stronger then Tito, and look what he did to him.

I reckon Machida by UD, only way i could see Tito winning is utilizing the clinch, but i dont reckon that will happen. I do wanna see Machida put Tito on his back, and see how the fish does out of water.

The Finisher · 05-23-2008, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Suizida

Gotta disagree with you on this one. As you said he's gotta fight like he did against sodjoukou. If he gets caught taken down his gonna sweep, and thats one thing that Machida is simply awesome at did it against Hoger and sodjokou with ease.

If feeds into his own ego he's already lost simply on the quote "I feel i have better stand up then him". Last time he said that he stood agaisnt Chuck Liddell in UFC 47, and that was just devestating. Not to say that Machida is going to knock him out, but he would pick him apart.

Machida's distance against his opponents is also one of the key factors in this fight. As we all know, his elusiveness and his ability to kick/punch and move is just to quick for his opponents. From what I've seen Tito likes to shoot in for takedowns and doesn't utilize the clinch for his takedowns (enough). How did Sodjokou get Machida down? Clinch and a sweep. Machida's TDD + his distance = a very angry TITO ORTIZ.

Not to mention, Machida's a BJJ black belt so even if he does get on his back, he cause problems for tito. + I reckon as of now Sodjokou is stronger then Tito, and look what he did to him.

I reckon Machida by UD, only way i could see Tito winning is utilizing the clinch, but i dont reckon that will happen. I do wanna see Machida put Tito on his back, and see how the fish does out of water.

Could Machida win, absolutly. I just don't think so.

The differance between Tito and Sodjoku is that Tito is a vet and knows what he is doing. He will be able to utilize his strength and skills more. Machida better get distance because if Tito gets a hold of him, he's going to over power him.

MrSecretAgent · 05-23-2008, 09:40 PM

Jardine might just be the first death in the UFC.

sisdavid · 05-23-2008, 10:56 PM

He has been doing good lately he took out Chuck.

Suizida · 05-23-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Finisher

Could Machida win, absolutly. I just don't think so.

The differance between Tito and Sodjoku is that Tito is a vet and knows what he is doing. He will be able to utilize his strength and skills more. Machida better get distance because if Tito gets a hold of him, he's going to over power him.

That's an unfair comment to sokki, you gotta know what you're doing to knock out lil nog in 23 seconds....+ i think we all are aware of Machida's ability to get distance. Machida's the man, i want jardine to lose so he can vs. Rampage/forrest (probz rampage) next.

**WarHERO** · 05-23-2008, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sisdavid

He has been doing good lately he took out Chuck.

Holy shit? Are you serious!!!

Mufofamm · 05-23-2008, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Finisher

Could Machida win, absolutly. I just don't think so.

The differance between Tito and Sodjoku is that Tito is a vet and knows what he is doing. He will be able to utilize his strength and skills more. Machida better get distance because if Tito gets a hold of him, he's going to over power him.

tito is old. he hasn't had an impressive win in 3 years and lyoto is growing into his prime and he's on fire right now. lyoto will beat tito, guaranteed. just watch.